Planning your own Solar Power System

Ive just finished a starting installation of a battery and inverter solution at my place so I might be able to add some value in the discussion.

Ive got two young kids and the load shedding for our area was 6pm to 830pm which was pretty crap while trying to bath kids and put them to bed. My requirements were therefore:
- Fridge/freezer (I measured temps after 2 hours of no power. The freezer goes from -25 to 3. So I want to keep my fridge running during power outages)
- 4xTVs. One being a plasma that eats 450w
- my internet (3x routers)
- DSTV
- PCS: Interl NUC, Microserver, iMac, MAcbook Pro on charge and 3x RPis
- Various cellphone chargers
- All lighting (i already have LEDs) - I dont have more than 26 downlights on at the same time so that is only 130w
- outside lighting - also LEDs but at 50w.

In determining an inverter size you need to first determine what your max power usage will be. Dont assume that everything will on at once. For example - I dont have all 4 TVs on, but I would like to have them all on if need be. Also consider start-up power draw. The fridge is the largest for me - 500w. but after that it is anywhere between 5w and 100w. Its a AAA enegery grade samsung thing.

Go out and buy a power meter to measure if you arent sure, but you will be surprised how little power you use. Then work out an average.
Average light use: 150w
Fridge: 100w (startup 500w)
DSTV, RPis, and routers: 40w
imac: 40w
macbook: 50w
49inch LED TV: 80w
40 inch LCD TV: 80w
24 inch LCD: 50w
60 inch plasma: 450w

Based on my measurements I opted for a 1600w inverter with a surge rating of 2400w. Also with UPS function and auto changeover. It also charges the batteries. Dont cheap out on inverter or else you are stuck with it. Rather get less batteries and add on as you go - I started with 2x100Ah deep cycle 10 year life batteries.

at an average of 350w usage (with the plasma not being used which is often), these seemingly small battery pack runs it all for at least 5 hours.

In terms of wiring, the DB was split to exclude geyser, aircons, stove etc from the UPS, so it is connected to all plugs and lights. I cannot however use a kettle as mine draws 3000w and will overload the inverter and it would shut down. THis is why I have a changeover switch for so I manually switch to battery power, however when eskom power is restored I wouldnt know the difference due to teh auto changeover. You could choose to only include the plugs that can run off the inverter and leave it on permanently, but I dont have any life support systems or fish tanks that rely on power.

If I would like more up-time or want to use more power hungry items more often I can either triple the battery capacity or install solar to charge batteries during long outages.

Anyway, point is, it is pretty easy to start off small. Going off grid is another thing all together, and personally I dont think we are there yet. Although lets wait for winter...

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Rather get less batteries and add on as you go - I started with 2x100Ah deep cycle 10 year life batteries.
at an average of 350w usage (with the plasma not being used which is often), these seemingly small battery pack runs it all for at least 5 hours.

5 hours at DOD 100% - ie: the batteries will break very soon.
 
The inverter's rating - is that the maximum output you can achieve in your house at any point and time (whether solar or grid)?
 
5 hours at DOD 100% - ie: the batteries will break very soon.
I'm an accountant so I have no idea what DOD means, but I do know that the inverter switches off at a certain voltage to ensure that no damage is done. But I guess if one had crappy batteries they would break soon.
 
The inverter's rating - is that the maximum output you can achieve in your house at any point and time (whether solar or grid)?
Yes.

In testing it out tonight as Murphy's law meant no load shedding since the installation. I've managed to make a coffee with the saeco machine while kitchen TV, all lights, PCs and fridge are on.

When I used the microwave it went into surge power mode and warned me though. I didn't know I was going to be able to use the coffee machine or microwave so its a bonus.

Its bee 45min on batteries and its currently reporting 80% capacity at 25VDC. System is drawing 400w on average. Pretty impressive.
 
You are of course aware that in order to legally connect to the electrical supply, it will need to be compliant?
I see no mention of NERSA test compliance in their documents.

Specifically NRS 097-2-1 Grid interconnection of Embedded Generation.

Noted. However, I have stated that I will disable the inverter's ability to netmeter.

This is like saying "You have the means to kill someone with one punch, you are therefore a criminal".
 
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At least Eskom is now forcing us into alternative energy and going slightly green.

I am busy installing a small 600w system - moving lights over permanently and have some reserves to power my interwebs and laptop during load shedding.
 
Depth of Discharge. It means the batteries are drained completely - not a good thing.
Makes sense. For whats its worth I ran it for 2.5 hours until the wife got back from dinner. 60% capacity left with 24VDC still going on.

The 5 hours estimate is prudent IMO, might hit 30% which I'm sure is safe. But as I said, the inverter switches off automatically before it can damage batteries ;)

I still stand by the reasoning that its better to go bigger inverter than load up on batteries.

Modern appliances and electronics are so efficient nowadays it is amazing how little power one consumes. Although I did set output voltage to 220v instead of my eskom 240v just in case there are more gains to be had on resistive loads like motors etc.
 
For the guys who don't want to feed back into the grid, and those who are interested in running up to 6 inverters in parallel, you might want to look at the Axpert MKS range.
There is also a 5kVA/4kW version which I'm going to be installing soon.
 
For the guys who don't want to feed back into the grid, and those who are interested in running up to 6 inverters in parallel, you might want to look at the Axpert MKS range.
There is also a 5kVA/4kW version which I'm going to be installing soon.

What do those cost roughly?
 
I've seen them as low as R11k on Gumtree, and as high as R15k from local online retailers.
 
For the guys who don't want to feed back into the grid, and those who are interested in running up to 6 inverters in parallel, you might want to look at the Axpert MKS range.
There is also a 5kVA/4kW version which I'm going to be installing soon.
I've been looking at these lately as well.

The infinisolar units require too high an input voltage, i.e I'll need to invest a lot more upfront.

And my whole point of this thread is to get off the grid for as cheaply as possible.
 
I've seen them as low as R11k on Gumtree, and as high as R15k from local online retailers.

I see a few pc sites listing them for +-R8500 for the 4KW one thats a really good price.

Also does anyone have a rectron price list? If I look at the model number from these pc sites it looks like rectron stock them (RCT-AXPERT 5K).
 
I see a few pc sites listing them for +-R8500 for the 4KW one thats a really good price.

Also does anyone have a rectron price list? If I look at the model number from these pc sites it looks like rectron stock them (RCT-AXPERT 5K).

My big question is - do they have stock?
I had a interesting chat this weekend with a gent at a hardware store. According to him there's going to be a shortage of generators and the like until May. And then - just like last time - there will be a glut on the market.
 
My big question is - do they have stock?
I had a interesting chat this weekend with a gent at a hardware store. According to him there's going to be a shortage of generators and the like until May. And then - just like last time - there will be a glut on the market.

I would phone first to confirm and thats why I would like to know if Rectron is stocking them.
I have heard that as well, the same thing happened in 2008 when everyone thought importing generators will make them a quick buck but instead there was oversupply and the prices dropped.
 
I would phone first to confirm and thats why I would like to know if Rectron is stocking them.
I have heard that as well, the same thing happened in 2008 when everyone thought importing generators will make them a quick buck but instead there was oversupply and the prices dropped.

http://www.hondamotorsa.co.za/honda-news-power-products/honda-news-power-products-46/

Posted on February 22, 2015
Having been inundated with demands for Honda generators during the recent power outages, Honda Power Equipment Southern Africa announces that new stock is on the way

I'm a patient man. Its ****ing frustrating, but I'm a patient man. :whistle:
 
I see a few pc sites listing them for +-R8500 for the 4KW one thats a really good price.

Also does anyone have a rectron price list? If I look at the model number from these pc sites it looks like rectron stock them (RCT-AXPERT 5K).

that's a damn good price for the 4kw. Please provide links so that I can grab one.
 
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