Plasma / LCD Info

PostmanPot said:
Rather ignorant to underestimate the power of marketing, bright shop lighting and closer than home viewing distance judging.
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Them shop lights are turning out to be a seriously influential force on the human race. After all its estimated that 220 million LED TV models will be bought this year.
 
Roman4604 said:
Them shop lights are turning out to be a seriously influential force on the human race. After all its estimated that 220 million LED TV models will be bought this year.
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Well, they are, whether you believe it or not. It's a fact, as demonstrated every time people compare under the correct conditions. Brightly lit showroom floors are not the correct conditions for the vast majority of people, and by your own admission LED-LCD wins in that environment.

Not sure why you play dumb when you're normally a reasonable chap. Must hurt that a 3 year old entry-mid plasma burns a newer and superior mid LED-LCD model to yours.
 
Roman4604 said:
Who playing dumb, the numbers speak for themselves, you can look them up for yourself.
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Not true, and very unlike the inflated marketing numbers, which don't speak for themselves, when people compare properly.

1) Brightly lit showrooms
2) Aisle viewing distances
(Both of these not in accordance with majority of home viewing conditions)
3) Uninformed salesmen
4) Keeping up with the Joneses who were subject to the above, now a vicious cycle
5) Greedy manufacturers. Profit > quality.

Skeptics love plasmas!
 
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Roman4604 said:
Each to their own, the two technologies excel in different areas and viewing environments.

For me, viewing in well lit conditions, predominantly live action content like sport (non-cinematic), the brightness of plasmas is too dull (even at max cell brightness/contrast settings).
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Yes thats true that its personal preference. I will do a comparison (when I have the time) of my findings from my own point of view. I tried to look at it at unbalanced view and was actually really excited when I was opening / setting it up. Now there is a part of me thats actually hoping I have a dud screen and am able to replace it.

TBH, I have no problem with brightness. If you pump up both screens to full brightness, they actually quite similar. For me, its a moot point as I wont really watch at that brightness.

I will say this for now:

The build quality of the plasma is 300 % better than the LED. (This has nothing to do with the tech). Its just that I thought things should be getting better, not worse. I get it that things are getting lighter etc but it just feels cheap now.
The LED is incredibly unnatural. Almost like watching home movies for everything
Colours seemed incredibly unnatural and almost washed out. (this especially irritates the wife lol)
black is not really black. (in comparison to the plasma). there is probably some test that proves otherwise but I am just going as to what my eyes can see.
Fewer inputs that the plasma.
All in all, a lot more stripped down than the plasma

it is however incredibly slim. wifi works quite well. not really interested in the 3d but I am sure it will work when I try it. the smart hub seems much better than my old internet tv. Still cant get Plex though.

Still fiddling around but for now, this is looking like a very expensive mistake. In my opinion of course.

Maybe when I get plex to work, I will be a little happier with my purchase.
 
iceman23 said:
If you pump up both screens to full brightness
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I think you misunderstand, I didn't mean the brightness setting, but rather the brightness of the colours at calibrated settings. I run brightness at 45/100 on my 46D6000.

iceman23 said:
The LED is incredibly unnatural. Almost like watching home movies for everything
Colours seemed incredibly unnatural and almost washed out. (this especially irritates the wife lol)
black is not really black. (in comparison to the plasma).
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All these should be settable closer to your preferences.

BTW what input sources are you using for comparison e.g. HDPVR on HD ch, Bluray discs ?
 
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mostly HD PVR and Media PC. only tried blu-ray disc once. most of my "cool" movies are uncompressed blu ray...

Yep. still playing with settings so hopefully find something that suits me soon.
 
I don't want this to turn out into whose best, plasma/LED. I'm sure that each technology has their own benefits...PostmanPot has provided his views of what's the best Plasma in his opinion for me to purchase looking at my price range and size of the Screen I am looking for. If possible can someone give an opinion who is just as passionate about their LCD/LED's, I have a budget of R7,000 and looking for a size equal or bigger than 46", I will be mostly using it for USB ripped movies, Sport & DSTV, what's available out there for me in LCD/LED? I want to then go for myself and look at the options recommended and make a choice :)
 
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M Power said:
I want to then go for myself and look at the options recommended and make a choice :)
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Always the best to do that, and make sure you match the quality of your source material i.e. no good viewing Blurays/DSTV HD channels on the TVs when most of your stuff is SD rips & analogue SD DSTV. If the majority is lower grade quality, a lower res HD Ready plasma will be more forgiving.
 
Roman4604 said:
Always the best to do that, and make sure you match the quality of your source material i.e. no good viewing Blurays/DSTV HD channels on the TVs when most of your stuff is SD rips & analogue SD DSTV. If the majority is lower grade quality, a lower res HD Ready plasma will be more forgiving.
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Cool, do you perhaps have any LED's that I should look at around my price range?
 
Thanx for everyones help and advice. I went to the store and decided on the Samsung 51" Plasma, based on size, quality and price :) So far I have watched some basic movie clips and it looks great :)
 
Thanks to all, but PostmanPot in particular, who contributed to this and many other TV (LED-LCD/LCD versus Plasma) threads, which resulted in me now being the happy owner of a 43" Samsung PN43E450 plasma TV. Still fiddling around with all the different settings though.

The only drawback is that I now have to get the woodworking tools out to modify my wall-unit, with woodworking not being my ultimate strength.......(thinking of Malenema). ;):D

Thanks guys.
 
Stokstert said:
Thanks to all, but PostmanPot in particular, who contributed to this and many other TV (LED-LCD/LCD versus Plasma) threads, which resulted in me now being the happy owner of a 43" Samsung PN43E450 plasma TV. Still fiddling around with all the different settings though.

The only drawback is that I now have to get the woodworking tools out to modify my wall-unit, with woodworking not being my ultimate strength.......(thinking of Malenema). ;):D

Thanks guys.
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Absolute pleasure, thanks for the remarks. Will be worth the cutting! :D
 
Shouldn't there be a dedicated thread where folks ask for assistance with selecting an LCD or plasma model? That way folks like me who're considering various options can be helped by the Postman :D
 
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