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porchrat said:
Probably because when Joburg's cold everything South of it is also cold as the cold front likely came in from Antarctica. When Cape Town's cold the North can still be warmer.
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More to it than that. Seems Jo'burg has the bulk of the free-supply areas, usage-expensive when we get cold.

So, demand more about more lies it seems...
 
The_Right_Honourable_Brit said:
Eskom has "predicted" by the "end of this week" (not sure if this is the working week or actual week) they will be able to lower the stages.
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They seemed to mean Fri., but Sat. would be normal for them.

@Lupus thought a full week, I thought another half a week added due to possible further mistakes.
Saturday is my new bet, but only a drop to 3/4 at best - us boiled frogs will put up with that now.
 
Lupus said:
So it could give us enough for a joburg block?
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At this point, every little bit helps (that isn't tainted with Gwedes retirement fund bollocks)...

And if this is over the Cahora Basa links and such, this is available immediately with zero physical complications.
 
Brian_G said:
More to it than that. Seems Jo'burg has the bulk of the free-supply areas, usage-expensive when we get cold.

So, demand more about more lies it seems...
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Must admit I don't know much about where the free supply areas are.

In my experience there aren't many in Cape Town I'll agree with that.

You likely have a point here.
 
porchrat said:
Must admit I don't know much about where the free supply areas are.

In my experience there aren't many in Cape Town I'll agree with that.

You likely have a point here.
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It's very convenient but I doubt it make much of a difference, an illegal connection does not necessarily mean more demand, I doubt even if you were to monitor the demand in Joburg that you would find it's the highest in Diepsloot or Alexandra, the lifestyle is just different.

But it would still be interesting to see something about where the peak demands are happening, my feeling is that rich and middle class are still using more, I mean we have people here who have installed solar but will still give you very ridiculously sounding kWh consumption figures, I recall some guy still using over 30kWh or something a day with a massive solar backup installed.
 
TheChamp said:
It's very convenient but I doubt it make much of a difference, an illegal connection does not necessarily mean more demand, I doubt even if you were to monitor the demand in Joburg that you would find it's the highest in Diepsloot or Alexandra, the lifestyle is just different.

But it would still be interesting to see something about where the peak demands are happening, my feeling is that rich and middle class are still using more, I mean we have people here who have installed solar but will still give you very ridiculously sounding kWh consumption figures, I recall some guy still using over 30kWh or something a day with a massive solar backup installed.
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Yea now that you mention it that makes sense.

I mean how much power can a little shack possibly use?

Surely not as much as a large suburban home right?

Might be countered by the extreme number of those shacks on illegal connections. I suppose without the data per region in JHB we will likely never know.
 
Brian_G said:
Too much info, they never share anything close to that much detail.
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Yeah, unfortunately, but I do know for an example that most poor areas have a 20A supply, bar the older townships like Soweto who got electricity from the national party days.

We still have to choose between heavy appliances like stoves, kettle and iron, you just don't run wild and do everything at once, if you cook you cook, if you iron you iron. So even those who have bridged do not have unfettered access, the network is still restrictive. And there is certainly no one with a pool pump, even those who are connecting illegally it is just for the bare necessities, not living a life of luxury.
 
TheChamp said:
Yeah, unfortunately, but I do know for an example that most poor areas have a 20A supply, bar the older townships like Soweto who got electricity from the national party days.

We still have to choose between heavy appliances like stoves, kettle and iron, you just don't run wild and do everything at once, if you cook you cook, if you iron you iron. So even those who have bridged do not have unfettered access, the network is still restrictive. And there is certainly no one with a pool pump, even those who are connecting illegally it is just for the bare necessities, not living a life of luxury.
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It's not a normal consumption issue, it would be about heating and that electric heaters for "everyone" chow massive amounts.
Maybe more than usual hot meals at the same time.
 
porchrat said:
Yea now that you mention it that makes sense.

I mean how much power can a little shack possibly use?

Surely not as much as a large suburban home right?

Might be countered by the extreme number of those shacks on illegal connections. I suppose without the data per region in JHB we will likely never know.
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The thing is, when you don't pay you will use things to heat that you wouldn't normally use. Like stoves for heating, you'd also run heaters as many as you want.
 
TheChamp said:
Yeah, unfortunately, but I do know for an example that most poor areas have a 20A supply, bar the older townships like Soweto who got electricity from the national party days.

We still have to choose between heavy appliances like stoves, kettle and iron, you just don't run wild and do everything at once, if you cook you cook, if you iron you iron. So even those who have bridged do not have unfettered access, the network is still restrictive. And there is certainly no one with a pool pump, even those who are connecting illegally it is just for the bare necessities, not living a life of luxury.
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20A is still 4600w which is still a lot of usage, and bare necessities is heating, pool pumps actually use very little in comparison to heating
 
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