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Question of the Day: Have you had to buy RAM, SSDs, or a new PC since the prices skyrocketed?
Price war!
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DragonLogos
Expert Member
Sorry was it War or Whore?
ldmelsa
Executive Member
This is very different to other countries, where wire line dominates. Maybe something will come out of our strange situation. Maybe wireless is just what this country needs. (Wimax, G4, ... and so on)
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Praeses
Executive Member
is telkom really losing their monopoly over SAT3? If telkom doesn't have any price cuts in the near future...I can't wait to wave them goodbye...and see how this multi billion R company goes bankrupt... (I'm allowed to dream 
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bekdik
Honorary Master
Surely there is now a big gap for all non-Telkom providers to exploit?
With Telkom's statement of intent the public knows they can benefit from cancelling a Telkom service for at least the next 3 years.
Come on Neotel, now's the time to grab a whole bunch of business!
With Telkom's statement of intent the public knows they can benefit from cancelling a Telkom service for at least the next 3 years.
Come on Neotel, now's the time to grab a whole bunch of business!
ldmelsa
Executive Member
Misleading title.
eremos
Senior Member
It's a baby price war. If everyone were to switch to MTN now it might grow up to be big and strong.
Unfortunately at the moment there's some lock-in involved in whatever broadband (sic) access method you choose - ADSL, you have to buy a modem. 3g/hsdpa/sentech/iburst? sign a contract or pay R1000-2000 for a modem.
So people can't really just switch methods every month to get the cheapest deal.
Solution: IPConnect should be sold at cost. Taxpayers paid for the lines, they should be given back to us. Then ISPs could start their own price war as they can provide their own backbones.
Skeptik
Banned
It would be easy for Telkom to compete. They just need to increase the cap slightly. The wireless networks have modelled their offerings on measuring every bit that comes into your PC, so they would have to run fast to catch up.
Praeses
Executive Member
i hope telkom competes...just because i hate my adsl cap 
why can't they not be money hungry corporate bastards? How can they just not care about the growth of the country 
why can't they not be money hungry corporate bastards? How can they just not care about the growth of the country Honestly. Get a life. Yes, tillskim is expensive, yes, the cap is a small issue, but the reality is I, like most people I know would gladly live with these minor issues if skimtel could actually provide a real broadband service.
I have a so-called "4Mb" line, but the only place to actually get "4Mb" is from the useless telscum "speed" test. Real-world speed is closer to around 300Kb. Unless and until that is improved, our narrowband Internet access in SA will continue to hamper real growth.
All Neotel has to do is offer genuine speed and they will get my business - irrespective of price.
I have a so-called "4Mb" line, but the only place to actually get "4Mb" is from the useless telscum "speed" test. Real-world speed is closer to around 300Kb. Unless and until that is improved, our narrowband Internet access in SA will continue to hamper real growth.
All Neotel has to do is offer genuine speed and they will get my business - irrespective of price.
What you posted could be true of a wider audience not yet familiar with so called broadband [maybe still using dialup], but I seriously doubt that cap and price are small issues for the majority of forumites here...
Vrotappel
Bulls fan
Be glad you can afford the 4Mb line. Most people in this country can't afford the entry level ADSL offerings, that is the issue here.
hj2k_x
Honorary Master
Agreed. That is what we are fighting for.
Pitbull
Verboten
My 2c
The only time I really miss ADSL is online gaming.
My ping is crappy sometimes on Wireless (Not always). Fact is ADSL is the most stable for online gaming.
This is the only market Telkom has it's finger in. For normal Upload/Download, Surfing bla bla bla. There is no use for ADSL. U can get Wirless and use it to the same effect.
So once the Wireless guys get their pings/Latency sorted.... Telkom is dead. FACT !
The only time I really miss ADSL is online gaming.
My ping is crappy sometimes on Wireless (Not always). Fact is ADSL is the most stable for online gaming.
This is the only market Telkom has it's finger in. For normal Upload/Download, Surfing bla bla bla. There is no use for ADSL. U can get Wirless and use it to the same effect.
So once the Wireless guys get their pings/Latency sorted.... Telkom is dead. FACT !
That's not really the full story, for data allowances >2GB, ADSL is currently less exorbitantly priced, for example what would I be paying for 28GB of local data transfer if I had to use a wireless broadband service...My 2c
The only time I really miss ADSL is online gaming.
My ping is crappy sometimes on Wireless (Not always). Fact is ADSL is the most stable for online gaming.
This is the only market Telkom has it's finger in. For normal Upload/Download, Surfing bla bla bla. There is no use for ADSL. U can get Wirless and use it to the same effect.
So once the Wireless guys get their pings/Latency sorted.... Telkom is dead. FACT !
Pitbull
Verboten
True. However how many people paying R 500 + a month really use that much data ?
I know that people like me could do 100GB easy, I'm refering to normal users here and there. They surely account for the majority of the Subscriber base.
Now with that in mind - Why would telkom cut their prices if only the High users which is in the minoraty benefit and then they can't rape the low end users ?
Like I said I haven't used it in ages so I might be out with my figures i'm just assuming
ADSL doesn't make online gaming a much better experience. Thanks to port shaping, you can get ping counts as high as 5000ms (and higher at some times). Getting a unshaped account won't improve things much. In one evening I've tried both shaped and unshaped, and still got the same ping times.