Prince Harry doesn't like "Paki's"

[zeb]

Ooooh, by the way, anyone recall the trouble Brian MacMillan was in for asking a teammate to bowl a 'coolie creeper' to an Indian player some years ago?

 

[Alan]

As for why I hate them - does the Anglo Boer War ring a bell? Even though they invented concentration camps they have never apologised.

Burn in hell Harry you inbred, burn in hell.

That was a 100 years ago. How could Harry be responsible for that

Ooooh, by the way, anyone recall the trouble Brian MacMillan was in for asking a teammate to bowl a 'coolie creeper' to an Indian player some years ago?

 

[Nod]

That was a 100 years ago. How could Harry be responsible for that

The sins of the fathers, and all that. If we can be held responsible for our fathers sins, then so can they.

 

[shadowfox]

I wish people would stop being so sensitive. There was all that fuss a few years back in the Super 14 when one of the rugby players got called something offensive - I can't remember the details.

But he's a grown man ... what does he do. He runs to the board and cries about it. I mean .. c'mon ... it was nothing compared to some of the things I heard shot my way when I played rugby. And you just shot back something equal or worse ... and when the game was over, everybody were mates again.

This whole bloody PC thing is getting my teeth on edge - you can't say anything these days before thinking it through, printing it out, reading it, thinking again and then finally speaking - for fear of pissing someone, somewhere off.

They already said the soldier in question didn't complain - he probably thought nothing of it - or took it in its context - a joke between squadmates. One of the other troopers probably just wanted to cause k*k.

 

[CyraxHB]

Well we call them Poms and they call us Saffas, is that racist too?

 

[Abe]

"Paki" was the blokes nickname in the army and "raghead" was what they called the Taliban insurgents. It was typical army talk.

Edit - And the bloke referred to as "Paki" was his mate.

 

[CHURCHILL]

Here's the thing, I hate the royals and I'd love to see them get their comeuppance. If Harry gets in trouble for saying something that would be petty if anyone else said it, I'd be standing in line to light the bonfire. The fact that they set such high standards for themselves makes it even better if they slip and fall from grace.
I'm far from politicallly correct myself, but I know when to place a guard in front of my mouth whereas he and his dad seem have regular foot in mouth disease..

As for why I hate them - does the Anglo Boer War ring a bell? Even though they invented concentration camps they have never apologised.

Burn in hell Harry you inbred, burn in hell.

These are some strong words/feelings you have here towards the royal family,
my guess is that you have never met the royal family or even spoken to them, thus your hatred towards them is more of a hatred towards English people in general, which in this case, is no different towards Harry's feelings about "paki's".

As for your comment on the Anglo Boer war/Concentration Camps, War is War, if a War was meant to be a kitchen tea party, the Queen would have been leading the frontlines/bunkers herself.

 

[zeb]

These are some strong words/feelings you have here towards the royal family,
my guess is that you have never met the royal family or even spoken to them, thus your hatred towards them is more of a hatred towards English people in general, which in this case, is no different towards Harry's feelings about "paki's".

As for your comment on the Anglo Boer war/Concentration Camps, War is War, if a War was meant to be a kitchen tea party, the Queen would have been leading the frontlines/bunkers herself.

I'm anti royalist, nothing against English people...although I do like when their sports teams lose

As for your happy go lucky attitude towards concentration camps and "war is war" - do you feel the same way about WW2 and German concentration camps?

 

[CHURCHILL]

In a war time situation, concentration camps can be seen as a good thing or a bad thing, it all depends on how the relief for those people is being handled.

 

[PeterCH]

In a war time situation, concentration camps can be seen as a good thing or a bad thing, it all depends on how the relief for those people is being handled.

Well, the Nazis did say they were moving all those people into the concentration camps for their protection.

 

[zeb]

In a war time situation, concentration camps can be seen as a good thing or a bad thing, it all depends on how the relief for those people is being handled.

You obviously have a very selective view of history. Either that or you have little knowledge of it.

 

[Nod]

In a war time situation, concentration camps can be seen as a good thing or a bad thing, it all depends on how the relief for those people is being handled.

Second Boer War

Eventually, there were a total of 45 tented camps built for Boer internees and 64 for black Africans. Of the 28,000 Boer men captured as prisoners of war, 25,630 were sent overseas. The vast majority of Boers remaining in the local camps were women and children. Over 26,000 women and children were to perish in these concentration camps.

When so many captives dies, it was not handled well.

 

[CHURCHILL]

You obviously have a very selective view of history. Either that or you have little knowledge of it.

I will let you pass judgement on if i have a selective view or little knowledge of history.

Second Boer War


When so many captives dies, it was not handled well.

Agreed, the concentration camps where poor and inhumane.

 

[zeb]

I will let you pass judgement on if i have a selective view or little knowledge of history.

I'm going with selective view.
British atrocities = good and fair
[insert country] atrocities = bad and unjust

Is that about right?

 

[CHURCHILL]

I'm going with selective view.
British atrocities = good and fair
[insert country] atrocities = bad and unjust

Is that about right?

Yip,

We all know that the British Empire over the centuries has done alot of wrong doing, and for these type of actions the British Empire is not liked by many.

I am british , therefor believe in the Empire and what it stands for,
I cannot pretend to be someone else when i'm not.

You seem to be a proud person yourself,

hopefully you can see where i am coming from.

 

[CHURCHILL]

back on topic,

The British press can be very harsh, and will milk any story for all its worth.

 

[zeb]

Yip,

We all know that the British Empire over the centuries has done alot of wrong doing, and for these type of actions the British Empire is not liked by many.

I am british , therefor believe in the Empire and what it stands for,
I cannot pretend to be someone else when i'm not.

You seem to be a proud person yourself,

hopefully you can see where i am coming from.

I do. We're cut from the same cloth yet we'll never see eye to eye.

 

[PeterCH]

Yip,

We all know that the British Empire over the centuries has done alot of wrong doing, and for these type of actions the British Empire is not liked by many.

I am british , therefor believe in the Empire and what it stands for,
I cannot pretend to be someone else when i'm not.

You seem to be a proud person yourself,

hopefully you can see where i am coming from.

The British Empire is the reason why there are so many Pakistanis in
the UK and why there are so many racial tensions. If British people
remained on their islands and not colonised other places they wouldn't
have these issues now - there wouldn't even exist a word
for Pakistanis, like there are no words for South American Hispanics,
Koreans or Ukrainians. The racial and cultural diversity the Royal Family
now has to become accustomed to is a direct consequence of the
greatness of the British Empire.

 

[TheHiveMind]

The British Empire is the reason why there are so many Pakistanis in
the UK and why there are so many racial tensions. If British people
remained on their islands and not colonised other places they wouldn't
have these issues now - there wouldn't even exist a word
for Pakistanis, like there are no words for South American Hispanics,
Koreans or Ukrainians. The racial and cultural diversity the Royal Family
now has to become accustomed to is a direct consequence of the
greatness of the British Empire.

Hispanics - There is a word, however its widely accepted as derogatory because hispanic is a racial class, not a nationality, now you can argue that others on the list may be racial too i guess, but I personally don't think so, as countries majority populations fit into broader racial classes.

Pakistanis - pakis
British - brits
South Africans - saffas
Autralians - ozzies
Japanese - japs
Germans - germs
Turkish - turks

They are short hand for the accepted terminology.
As far as I can see, the only one that may suggest derogatory meaning is germs because of the double meaning in english, thats probably why its not used very much.

Ofcourse you can make anything derogatory if you say it in a derogatory way.

 

[PeterCH]

Hispanics - There is a word, however its widely accepted as derogatory because hispanic is a racial class,

You're incorrect. Hispanic is not a derogatory term. It's used by science, demographic bodies and the government in the United States.

Example of use in Medicine:

Race

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) note that the prevalence of angina and/or coronary heart disease is highest in Hispanics followed by whites and black non-Hispanics (5%, 4.2%, 3.7%, respectively). This information includes the 50 US states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands.7

From:
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/761889-overview

not a nationality, now you can argue that others on the list may be racial too i guess, but I personally don't think so, as countries majority populations fit into broader racial classes.

Pakistanis - pakis
British - brits
South Africans - saffas
Autralians - ozzies
Japanese - japs
Germans - germs
Turkish - turks

I do know the Japanese consider "Japs" to be derogatory. I know it's a shortening of the full noun but they still do.

I gather the Pakistanis consider "Paki" to be derogatory too.

Turks is not derogatory.

I don't think the others are derogatory.

They are short hand for the accepted terminology.
As far as I can see, the only one that may suggest derogatory meaning is germs because of the double meaning in english, thats probably why its not used very much.

Ofcourse you can make anything derogatory if you say it in a derogatory way.

I'm not arguing vs any one or other use of the word. However, the parent of the post I was replying to argued points about the British Empire. My reply was aimed mainly at him for it was the British Empire which caused Britain to become filled to the brim with foreign people of various races and cultures which leads now to a requirement for a PC attitude - the British Royal Family should have an impeccable record in that regard.