Promises, promises...

Good article! Has this been sent to any papers? And maybe faxed to Mbeki's office, as well as to the DoC?
 
ettubrute said:
Good article! Has this been sent to any papers? And maybe faxed to Mbeki's office, as well as to the DoC?
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Published in the Citizen today I think. This is part of Belinda's weekly broadband column...
 
I wonder if there's nobody subotaging Padayache's efforts. Could this be political? While else would somebody choose to underperform?
 
Maybe Ivy had her customary "PROTECT TELKOM AND NOT THE CONSUMERS - I WANT MY SHARE PAYOUT" talk with Roy.
 
Puleaassseee,, Roy is in on it and will tow the party line. Nothing more than Ivy's official doughnut dunker.
Perhaps when he delivers on all the hot air people would start to think differently, till then, dunk away.
Lies lies lies.
 
I have feeling that if all concerned parties, had to do a surprise visit to the offices of the DoC, we would probably find Ivy practising her ABC's on a black board, and learning to spell the words "banana republic", because that is the only thing that can explain why it takes them so long to read and understand documentation.

Perhaps if we had more competant people at Icasa and the DoC, we would be in a different position.
 
This goes beyond broandband and internet. The problem lies with our government. First of all there is a huge shortage of skilled workers. And by that I literally mean people who can actually read and write for starters.

Now you take the likes of our Leaders. They have absolutely know clue what they are doing especially when comes to Telecoms. They lack the knowledge, leadership and definately the vision to rectify the current Telecoms industry.

In all honesty I blame our Leaders but dont really hold them accountable. This will merely turn into one of those.. "We tried our best to sort the telecoms industry out, but we lacked the vision and skill to foresee what we missed out". This will come after everyone has moved forward in the world and we still siting with a duoply. The IT industry in this country will take a knock. And government will realize that by protecting their 30% share in telecoms they have let the IT industry slip and take a huge loss which in turn lowers the GDP etc... etc...

In short dont hold out on government to do anything. You need the right people with the right skills in the right places. At this moment in time we dont. So dont expect much. They all busy riding the gravy train. And thats the truth.
 
they were on holiday, what you expect ? :( Question is, since we the people can't hold the DoC responsible, and the media seems wholey uninterested who is gonna pressure them ?
 
Unfortunately very true... :(

PS. Referring to the post from moosag, not from krycor, who beat me by a couple of seconds... ;)
 
I don't buy it for one second, they know exactly what they are doing.
They are maximising their own personal wealth and that of their peers in the name of BEE, and to hell with anything else.
They are darned good at creating wealth and making money in the short term, but the sad thing is that it is certainly not a sustainable model in the long term, and the cracks are starting to show now, while people like Andile Ngcaba laugh all the way to the bank.
 
Hehehe... sorry ettubrute :)

Sneeky you 100% correct. But at the same time these idiots lack the foresight that by riding the gravy train they only make things worse for the country which includes them. Government will soon realize that by not opening up the market or arguably adopting international broadband trends, It will soon have a huge knock on effect in every industry. The digital divide will never be closed. Most skilled workers will end up leaving the country (especially in the IT industry). Then they'll be left with no one to do the work that is needed to maintain the country. All in all they'll be left with their tails in their legs. Sure they'll be rich. But like krycor said. No one is putting enough pressure on the situation.
 
And since both Telkom and SA government can do as they please, this is the situation we are in. Of course they Lie, Steal etc. Look at the rest of Africa, a wealthy continent, but the biggest disaster of the century. Why, well you know why. Picket and Toi-Toi, ek se. Make them accountable. Ask the opposition parties to raise your concerns and get some answers.

Same **** different year!
 
Modise says without making excuses, the process has been a long one given that it has been very consultative and is such an important issue. So the department must get the detail right. Also, such a process is not about one individual, but a matter being handled by the whole department.
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Sigh. :(
More broken promises.
And here I thought Roy had some backbone.
 
This needs to become an election issue

I think the problem is that the upcoming election is going to be a major distraction to this whole topic, unless of course one of the parties picks it up as a major campaign issue. I mean what could be better than offering to reduce phone bills but 25-50%, or setting broadband price limits as a campaign promise.

Just a thought.
 
yeah, well you see its all about mass support. while telecoms is a big issue, its an issue for the more middle income ++ group. lower income groups worry about jobs, housing etc and make up the majority of voters. Sure telecoms affects jobs but only indirectly so its easy to camoflauge/detract the issue.

The President made himself objectives last yr, i'm hoping the parties keep him to it, one of which is about telecoms.
 
Since these elections are local government elections, isn't it an issue of the local politicians getting into the game? Thus, for metropoles like Jo'burg, Pretoria, Cape Town and more, who have been creating their own networks, it could be beneficial to a party to puch the roll-out of these networks to all areas of the said metropolis. Surely then they touch all income groups! For instance, if these local networks get of the ground, even an "informal housing" area will benefit, since they can do away with their expensive cellphones... and the middle to high income groups can be pulled to the party by offering not only VoIP, but real broadband as well at a nominal fee! Any comments?
 
BroadbandStarved said:
I have feeling that if all concerned parties, had to do a surprise visit to the offices of the DoC, we would probably find Ivy practising her ABC's on a black board, and learning to spell the words "banana republic", because that is the only thing that can explain why it takes them so long to read and understand documentation.

Perhaps if we had more competant people at Icasa and the DoC, we would be in a different position.
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Nah, I think the reason everything takes so long is because our infamous Minister of Communications (whom we all know only respects people who 'look like her') doesn't do anything unless documentation and proposals is first translated into her 'official language' of choice. This takes time and costs us citizens money.

That would explain why costs are so high and everything takes way too long to get resolved in this country!
 
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LifelongGamer said:
Nah, I think the reason everything takes so long is because our infamous Minister of Communications (whom we all know only respects people who 'look like her') doesn't do anything unless documentation and proposals is first translated into her 'official language' of choice. This takes time and costs us citizens money.
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Why would you want to translate a telecoms doc into, say something like Zulu? As far as I know, that document would still look like an english document due to all the technical terms propably still being English??

(Don't get me wrong, my 1st Language is Afrikaans, so I can understand the need forprotecting your own language, but this is not about language issues its about fighting poverty)
 
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