Proper Camera for Daughter (turning 15)

bwana said:
Glass and camera carry equal weight as far as I'm concerned - I can usually tell what body I was using on a particular lens at a glance. Problem with older bodies, aside from having to replace the shutter and/or mirror box, is they can't hold a candle to today's technology.
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Yes and no. ISO performance, frame rate, buffer size and autofocus performance are places where a modern entry level camera will beat the pants off of Canon or Nikon's finest from ten years ago. For you, freezing sports motion in low light and getting the shot you need requires everything I've just mentioned, but for shooting landscapes and portraits you're unlikely to often go above ISO 100 for a single shot.
 
faniedry said:
Thanks.

And of course I understand that any camera in auto will produce better quality photos than any phone will in auto.

But my question is... i don't even know what the question is anymore. I think she needs to read a book, maybe the one AT suggested. (I will as well). And let's take it from there. I need her to tell me what her plans are wrt photography. If I buy her a 6k camera and 6k lense, so she can take better selfies (people), outside (natura), I will literally schit my pants.

Let me see if I can get some pics from her facebook or something, and you guys can tell me if yes, or if no.
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:D

That eBook is brilliant - and a helluva lot cheaper than buying a camera :D :D
 
Don't want to enter the debate here, but there is one trick I learnt from Dror Eyal which I have used extensively for dark indoors shots.

Low Light - High ISO
 
Koosi said:
Don't want to enter the debate here, but there is one trick I learnt from Dror Eyal which I have used extensively for dark indoors shots.

Low Light - High ISO
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Was there more?
 
[XC] Oj101;15497436 said:
You missed the sarcasm. Using high ISO in low light is one of the absolute fundamentals of manual exposure.
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OK well as I mentioned... obviously the douchebag at my son's school concert was asleep in the class when they taught that back in the day...

Many people walk around at events with cameras flashing (and giving me a migraine) and I just laugh at them
 
Koosi said:
OK well as I mentioned... obviously the douchebag at my son's school concert was asleep in the class when they taught that back in the day...

Many people walk around at events with cameras flashing (and giving me a migraine) and I just laugh at them
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High ISO adds noise to the image and subtracts from dynamic range and colour depth; high ISO is normally a last resort. Depending on the distance between the flash/subject and subject/background, flash can also be used for separation of the subject from the background (inverse square law of light).

BTW that photographer you linked to needs to learn to straighten his horizons or the sea is gonna run away :D I'm npt talking about his Dutch angles, but the shots where the horizon is ever so slightly off and it detracts from the image http://www.droreyal.co.za/gallery/30.jpg http://www.droreyal.co.za/gallery/48.jpg http://www.droreyal.co.za/gallery/123.jpg
 
Yeah I am not going to derail the thread further, especially now that I remember why I steer clear of the photography topics and threads.
I am obviously too stupid for that kind of stuff...
 
bwana said:
Glass and camera carry equal weight as far as I'm concerned - I can usually tell what body I was using on a particular lens at a glance. Problem with older bodies, aside from having to replace the shutter and/or mirror box, is they can't hold a candle to today's technology.
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+1
I'd avoid the 20d bodies mentioned earlier in the thread.

To Fanie: I would still put some effort into getting your Fuji camera up and running.
 
[XC] Oj101;15497324 said:
I did not know that, I will stop using ISO 409,600 for sunsets immediately.
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Haha this made me laugh so much..

Koosi said:
Yeah I am not going to derail the thread further, especially now that I remember why I steer clear of the photography topics and threads.
I am obviously too stupid for that kind of stuff...
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You're taking offence, but you're coming into a thread full of photographers, and calling one of the first things you should learn a 'trick' :o
 
Randhir said:
Haha this made me laugh so much..



You're taking offence, but you're coming into a thread full of photographers, and calling one of the first things you should learn a 'trick' :o
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Said I wouldn't say anything further...
 
As for me, I'd search extensively on Gumtree. 90% of the people who pick up cameras, end up not bothering to learn, taking crap pics, and selling their gear because they stop using it.

@Fanny Until your daughter proves she's worth a good camera and lens, don't waste a lot of money. People do amazing things with entry-level cameras and glass.
 
Koosi said:
Said I wouldn't say anything further...
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Not trying to pick a fight, just pointing out. What you did was the equivalent of opening up a car-thread and saying "I learned this trick, when I use the third pedal my gears don't grind"
 
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