PS3 vs. 360

Optioncarduser said:
Harcore or not, my friends and I prefer the xbox since we prefer the games on it compared to PS3 games. I myself am pretty hardcore, playing more than 5hrs a night, and over 12hrs on the weekend. In the end it comes down to a matter of preferance as mccrack said (Selective quoting i know)
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Dude thats alot of gaming:) you will do what I do in a year in a week.
 
Wynsam said:
Thats a big if.
I just cant see how guys with HD screens want to look at anything else. Why buy one in the first place? HD is light years ahead and I want to enjoy it now , not in 3 years time. In PC terms imagine saying that you can have dual/quad core now but it will be cheaper in 3 years time. So wait till then. DVD is OK. HD is wow. Actually after a while of watching HD ,DVD gets relagated to alot lower than ok.

Horses for courses, different strokes for different folks, whatever rows your oars.
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HD is NOT Blu-Ray dependent.
What Gavin (correct me if I'm wrong here Gavin) was saying is that Blu-Ray might not become as mainstream as people are hopin/saying it will become. It is just another HD format.
As Gavin said, I agree, it will only become popular once it becomes cheaper and I think it will become more mainstream once Blu-Ray becomes more readily available and used by the average PC user.

Until then: Make mine DVD!

EDIT: Oh Gods! I got dragged into the discussion now.
 
DarkDenim said:
I'm not a hardcore gamer but I'll be gaming on most weekends. I like FPS & car games. Gears of War is the one of the reasons I'm leaning towards the 360.

IC will give me the PS3 for R4499 because I asked them nicely on Saturday :)
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I can't fault that logic, it's the reason I went from PC to console.

I agree with the general consensus, PS3@R4400 feature wise reflects a balance between the platforms, so you can simply go with the gaming matters. For me that's the 360, but mileage may vary ;)

To be totally fair, there is no definitively "superior" console, they both offer great experiences but which suits your personal profile is totally up to you.

My choices:

1. The games: Totally personal preference. As I said, I'm ex-PC and I find the 360 has more my type of game.
Gears 2, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, APB beat
GT5 Prologue, MGS4, Resistance 2 and Little big Planet
(Oh, and not to forget the back catalogues there's tons of awesome cheap 360 games)

2. The community: the 360 local online community is pretty big and really active. Being this far from Europe, local counts big time. The R40 a month for live is without a doubt worth it in my book.

3. The controller - someone mentioned it before, but they're quite different. Dual Shock gives me cramps, the 360 controller is a beaut, but I have quite big hands. (Also consider if you buy a PS3 you're going to have to factor in the cost of buying an additional controller to get rumble when the DS3 is released locally)

4. On Blu-Ray I'm not at all convinced and apparently neither is the market:
Players aren't selling
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/03/blu-ray-sales-tank-reason
And neither are discs
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/14455/15479/sony-ps3-blu-ray-poor-sales.phtml

Since there's no "HD" competitor any more it seems users are finally comparing it to good old DVD and it's coming up wanting. To be fair to the PS3, it does mean you can store more on the disc. But then again GTA4 is 6Gb and fits on a standard DVD, so how much of a deal is it?

Just my 2c. If you opt for a PS3 you'll still find plenty of games, and many of the same great cross platform games like Brutal Legend, Battlefield, etc etc

Doh. This was supposed to be short post :o
 
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Kage said:
HD is NOT Blu-Ray dependent.
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How else is one supposed to get HD content on your screen. I am not talking upscaled content which while okish is not the real deal. I am talking native 1080p. Downloads? Not viable for most here in SA.
 
Wynsam said:
How else is one supposed to get HD content on your screen. I am not talking upscaled content which while okish is not the real deal. I am talking native 1080p. Downloads? Not viable for most here in SA.
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You missed my point.
I am unable to put it simpler than what I have already explained.

I'll try:
High Definition viewing is not Blu-Ray dependent.
Another developer might bring out another format that also gives the high definition viewing functionality.
 
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OK that might happen. Braodband prices in SA might also soon be as cheap as in the UK. Speculation is no good. Lets deal in the now.

How do you watch a movie tonight on your fancy new screen, that you dropped a bomb on, in HD? Of course in you dont have an HD screen then its a moot point. But alot of us do.
 
Wynsam said:
How do you watch a movie tonight on your fancy new screen, that you dropped a bomb on, in HD? Of course in you dont have an HD screen then its a moot point. But alot of us do.
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I see wot you did thar
 
Is this discussion BD vs DVD or PS3 vs 360?

I knew this was going to boil down to BD vs DVD again. :rolleyes:
It seems to be the only real reason to buy a PS3.
*sigh*
 
Why do PS fanboys always harp on Blue ray this and blue ray that.

I bought my console to play games. Thats it. Seems like they always trying to justify why they spent that heaps load of cash.
 
Wynsam said:
OK that might happen. Braodband prices in SA might also soon be as cheap as in the UK. Speculation is no good. Lets deal in the now.

How do you watch a movie tonight on your fancy new screen, that you dropped a bomb on, in HD? Of course in you dont have an HD screen then its a moot point. But alot of us do.
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Oh Noes! I sit in the dark and weep buckets because my uber telly sits alone and forlorn in the darkness with no uber pixels to fill it my life is empty! :p



Come on get over it. If I want HD content I can just flip on the 360 and either play some HD games or if I want to impress myself download some HD video clips. If I want to watch a movie I'll watch an upscaled DVD. More pixels don't make a movie, they just justify the purchase.

I'd rather watch Black Adder on VHS than have to sit through Spiderman 3 again just because it's HD.


Kage said:
Is this discussion BD vs DVD or PS3 vs 360?

I knew this was going to boil down to BD vs DVD again. :rolleyes:
It seems to be the only real reason to buy a PS3.
*sigh*
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It must be some playstation hormones or something, always looking to pick a fight. ;)
 
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Kage said:
HD is NOT Blu-Ray dependent.
What Gavin (correct me if I'm wrong here Gavin) was saying is that Blu-Ray might not become as mainstream as people are hopin/saying it will become. It is just another HD format.
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You are correct that was what I was saying.

However for people like Wynsam who want the Blu-Ray movies then the PS3 is the obvious choice. It is easily the best Blu-Ray player on the market and is pretty much future proof (for the next 3-4 years at least) due to it's ability to get new firmware updates...
 
XBOX RULEZ !!1!1!!!!!11!! PS3 SUCKS BALLZ :D

I bought a 360 cause theres much more games that I enjoy for it and it being cheaper is a bonus. When the PS3 has a decent library of games i'll probably get one.
 
The ps3 is better value for money, better for media streaming and get's updated regularly. Not to talk about the failure rate of the Xbox. All the top games are available on the PS3, not to mention the PS3 exclusive titles like Grand Turismo and Metal Gear Solid4. The Xbox360 is a great console and I love the fact that you can connect them up together to play mulitplayer games BUT it's going no where slowly.
 
XCalibre said:
The 1)ps3 is better value for money, better for media streaming and get's updated regularly. Not to talk about the failure rate of the Xbox. 2)All the top games are available on the PS3, not to mention the PS3 exclusive titles like Grand Turismo and Metal Gear Solid4. 3)The Xbox360 is a great console and I love the fact that you can connect them up together to play mulitplayer games BUT it's going no where slowly.
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1) How?
2) They are .... must have missed the memo.
3) Meaning?
 
This failure rate banjo is getting old. The core through to the pro (1st and 2nd batch) have a high failure rate, and so ...

The arcade and the console revisions coming out this year and the next will be based on a new manufacturing process and the number of failures will decrease exponentially. Online it has been proven that will a simple x-clamp mod and fan replacement the older units are as reliable as you can get. So I'm really getting tired of this unreliability rubbish.

Media streaming with Vista/MCE/TVersity is great, be it wired or wirelessly.

The exclusives on PS3 is ... yawn ... Gran Turismo, MGS and a few others. The 360 has GOW, Halo, Forza, PGR to name a few. In terms of genre, these exclusives are like for like. The fact that we have cross-platform games is great and is a first in the history of consoles.

I love my 360, more than I liked the PS2 due to the online & multimedia aspects of next gen.

I maintain the saving grace of the PS3 is Blue-Ray, otherwise it is no better than the Xbox 360.

HAPPY GAMING !!! :D
 
Mephisto_Helix said:
1) How?
2) They are .... must have missed the memo.
3) Meaning?
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Getting into this against my better judgement. Own both, but get a bit irritated by blinkered views of some of the 360 boys, so here goes:

1) Extremely low failure rate, bigger hard drive, blu-ray included, no monthly on-line subscriptions for the rest of your life, no need to purchase play & charge kits or batteries for your controllers, no need to purchase wireless network adapters (it's built in), a host of 3rd party peripherals will plug 'n play, e.g. virtually all logitech steering wheels vs expensive Microsoft propriety wheels, no need to purchase expensive mem sticks (use any USB stick), upgrade your hard drive by plugging in any SATA 2.5" drive vs expensive propriety MS hard drives for the 360, to name but a few :D .

2) Can answer this in so many ways, but below just a small sample...
Biggest selling sandbox game GTA4 - check
Most successful racing franchise GT5 - check
Best FPS shooter 2007/8 COD4 - check
Best footy franchises FIFA 2008, Pes 2008 - check
Most successful stealth / FPS franchise - MGS - check
Most successful golf franchise - Tiger Woods series - check
Most successful fun golf franchise - Everybody's Golf - check
Most successful fighting franchise - Tekken - check


3) The PS3 is outselling the Xbox 360 in every major gaming territory. Lately including the USA. The Xbox 360 is only really performing well in territories labelled as "other" (South Africa, India), and a few other places where piracy is rife. The PS3 has sold more units in it's first year, than the PS2 did in it's first year. In the UK, from February, PS3 software sales now outstrips PS2 software sales. Week on week figures in the US shows the PS3 consistently outselling the Xbox 360. Yes, we do currently have a larger install base of 360's in ZA-land, and an active community. But the gaming world is far bigger than just us, and i.m.h.o. 360 owners in SA can be somewhat blinkered and think that all the 360 activity in our backyard represents what's happening in the rest of the gaming world, when clearly all evidence indicates otherwise. Furthermore the local PS3 community is very large, active and i.m.o. quite mature. There is no shortage of (free) on-line multi-player games in local PS3-land - the COD4 registered on-line base is just one example.

That said, I don't think you can go wrong purchasing either console. Don't be misled by price-tags though, or the relative noise made by either community.

From my own gaming experience, one thing I can say about the hardware is that I am on my second Xbox 360. I still get read errors on my disks, including on GTA 4. My launch day PS3 has not had one problem. Has not ever had one read error. It runs like a well oiled machine. With my 360 I'm always holding my breath for the next read error, or other hardware failure. I have to fiddle with purchasing Live subscriptions via on-line 3rd parties and hope like hell that MS doesn't shut them out. Or I have to continue to commit credit card fraud to keep my Live experience alive and hope that MS doesn't ban me. I have to fiddle with work-arounds to get down-loadable content. No such issues with free local PSN support, including showing prices in good old ZAR.

/off my soap box.
 
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WELL PUT SYBAWOODS!!! Notice hw quiet it is?:p (waits for the next 360 fanboi to say something in there state of denial :rolleyes:)

Lol anyways...my 2c is...like ppl say it depends on wat u looking for...xbox is mostly good for FPS games otherwise the rest of the games u can find on ps3(COD4...assassins creed)...ps3 exclusives - MGS4, Gran Turismo (forza n project gotham put together dnt hold a candle to this) , Ratchet and clank and Final Fantasy of course... 4 exclusives all from different genres and all 4 at the very top of its class

i wont say anything bout blu-ray...let the future speak for itself ;) ... its gonna be the way of the future...deep down we all know it...watch this space

i have nothing against the 360 and i will seriously think of getting one if something good enough attracts meto the console but fact is fact, PS3 is the future
 
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