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Maritzburg's top-flight journey ends after 15 years as CT Spurs gain PSL promotion

Maritzburg United have been relegated to the Motsepe Foundation Championship after 15 years in South Africa's top-flight as Cape Town Spurs gain promotion to the DStv Premiership.

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Maritzburg United have been relegated to the Motsepe Foundation Championship after 15 years in South Africa's top-flight as Cape Town Spurs gain promotion to the DStv Premiership.
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bwana said:
Maritzburg's top-flight journey ends after 15 years as CT Spurs gain PSL promotion

Maritzburg United have been relegated to the Motsepe Foundation Championship after 15 years in South Africa's top-flight as Cape Town Spurs gain promotion to the DStv Premiership.

www.news24.com

Maritzburg's top-flight journey ends after 15 years as CT Spurs gain PSL promotion | Sport

Maritzburg United have been relegated to the Motsepe Foundation Championship after 15 years in South Africa's top-flight as Cape Town Spurs gain promotion to the DStv Premiership.
www.news24.com www.news24.com
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Maritzburg's relegation was coming. The owner was repeatedly selling decent players when they produced them and then not replacing. Then once things go wrong, he just blames the coaches.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
Maritzburg's relegation was coming. The owner was repeatedly selling decent players when they produced them and then not replacing. Then once things go wrong, he just blames the coaches.
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Yeah, maybe it was emotions but him publicly blaming the coach like that was not a good thing to see.

In other news Fadluraghman has joined Raja Athletic as an assistant to Zinnbauer.
 
TheChamp said:
I used to enjoy the simple techniques of Dolezar, Dimitri, Igesund and some of the local coaches, the strategy was simple and players understood exactly what was expected of them, nowadays you can see that players are just pitching up and all their interested in is making sure they don't annoy the coach, just do what was asked of you, even if the team losses it doesn't matter as long as the blame is not on you.
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It was different times. I am against comparisons of players from yesteryear and those of today.

Football is a lot more scientific these days and coaches like Igesund, Barker (etc not taking away from what they achieved) but they would not cut it today against smart tacticians like Rhulani. One of the few old generation guys who I think would cut it though is Dumitru. He had a scientific approach even in those days but was prone to outbursts and sensitive to criticism,hence he coached so many clubs and could not really stay at one place long-term.

It's really impossible to compare. Players today are better than those of yesteryear, they are fitter and benefit from better nutrition and training methods but this is probably also unfair to the players of yesteryear as we don't know how they would have benefited had they been playing today.

One thing we overlook is that other African countries are much more organized today (though they still have a long way to go). Had they been organized in those days, I'm not sure Bafana Bafana would have been as powerful as they were.

It's going to be a very very long time before Bafana becomes a powerhouse in Africa again if ever. Countries like Morocco, Algeria, Ivory Coast etc have players who spent more of their lives in Europe than in their home countries and Bafana has majority of players who were developed by SA systems.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
It was different times. I am against comparisons of players from yesteryear and those of today.

Football is a lot more scientific these days and coaches like Igesund, Barker (etc not taking away from what they achieved) but they would not cut it today against smart tacticians like Rhulani. One of the few old generation guys who I think would cut it though is Dumitru. He had a scientific approach even in those days but was prone to outbursts and sensitive to criticism,hence he coached so many clubs and could not really stay at one place long-term.

It's really impossible to compare. Players today are better than those of yesteryear, they are fitter and benefit from better nutrition and training methods but this is probably also unfair to the players of yesteryear as we don't know how they would have benefited had they been playing today.

One thing we overlook is that other African countries are much more organized today (though they still have a long way to go). Had they been organized in those days, I'm not sure Bafana Bafana would have been as powerful as they were.

It's going to be a very very long time before Bafana becomes a powerhouse in Africa again if ever. Countries like Morocco, Algeria, Ivory Coast etc have players who spent more of their lives in Europe than in their home countries and Bafana has majority of players who were developed by SA systems.
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I honestly don't rate Rhulani as a top coach, one day, when he has moved out of the Sundowns comfort zone of money and won trophies with other teams I will give him credit.

Igesund won the league with Manning Rangers, Santos, Sundowns and Pirates. Pitso also won trophies from Supersport to Sundowns, Gavin Hunt won trophies at Swallows, Wits, and Supersport.

That's what makes one a good coach, being adaptable and making the best of the situation, not getting all the players you want being handed to you.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
Igesund was a good mentor like Barker but he struggles with the more tactical aspects of play. Pitso and Gvain Hunt are good coaches, no question about it.

I only rate Igesund's very impressive success as the one with Santos. The first one with Rangers, he won because there was a lot of coming to grips in that first season and Rangers got a lot of luck. It was somewhat similar to Leicester winning the league. Credit to Ranieri but Leicester getting lucky that reason was a bigger factor behind their success than Ranieri's management.
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Surely it stops being luck when he goes on to win the league again with another small team Santos, and continues to go and win it at big teams with a lot of pressure like Sundowns and Pirates? Looks like an all round good coach to me.

My problem with today's coaches is that they are not able to make players, Zwane with all the hype failed because he was always moaning about his preferred type of players, Rhulani is getting all his type of players bought for him with big money, everyone wants their type of players.

What happened to coaches turning ordinary players into great players? Our coaches are slaves to the fancy languages they learn from Europe, they are totally incapable of adapting, they lack inspiration and belief so they cannot inspire or believe in their own players, that's why they think the only solution is to have Sundowns budget so that you can get everything you need.
 
TheChamp said:
My problem with today's coaches is that they are not able to make players, Zwane with all the hype failed because he was always moaning about his preferred type of players, Rhulani is getting all his type of players bought for him with big money, everyone wants their type of players.
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Agreed about Igesund. I also forgot he nearly won the league with Swallows with virtually the same side that was almost relegated the season before. That was just before he got the Bafana job.

Rhulani is the strongest tactician in the league though by far. Yeah, he does benefit from getting the best team in the league but he is simply miles above people like Seema, Fadlu Davids, Ncikazi etc.

I only see four above average coaches in SA right now and those are Gavin Hunt, Rhulani, Pitso and Steve Barker.
 
JuliusSeizure said:
Agreed about Igesund. I also forgot he nearly won the league with Swallows with virtually the same side that was almost relegated the season before. That was just before he got the Bafana job.

Rhulani is the strongest tactician in the league though by far. Yeah, he does benefit from getting the best team in the league but he is simply miles above people like Seema, Fadlu Davids, Ncikazi etc.

I only see four above average coaches in SA right now and those are Gavin Hunt, Rhulani, Pitso and Steve Barker.
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That's very debatable to be honest, yes, his success at Sundowns cannot be dismissed but you can also never dismiss the fact that coaching a team without money and resources is a massive challenge.

You always have to ask, how would Rhulani fare at Maritzburg United, Arrows or Chippa, and how would coaches like Fadlu, Seema and Barker fare if they were to be given a chance to coach at Sundowns. You can also never ignore the fact that taking a winning team from Pitso can never be compared with starting from scratch and trying to build a team with nothing. What Benni did with Cape Town City and Amazulu looks much more praise worthy to me, although he did not have the success Rhulani had.

Not taking anything from anyone, I will have plenty of respect from a billionaire who grew up poor and made their own fortune out of nothing than the one who grew up rich and continued the legacy left behind by his father.
 
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