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I think they assumed that as the snake was brown.
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Python suspected in boys' deaths in Canada
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I think they assumed that as the snake was brown.
I imagine a 45kg snake would fall through a ceiling, and probably get a fright in the process.
Black Mamba. You must have been on its lawn.
Why would it unless it was killing for food?
Unpredictable to the untrained eye perhaps. Since we have a country full of wild animals you should then know that only some are naturally aggressive, whether it is arachnids, reptiles, birds, mammals or anything else.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Boys killed by Python died from asphyxiation
The mother of two small boys strangled by a 100-pound (45-kilogram) python in their sleep earlier this week in Canada had posted photos on Facebook last year of the boys playing in and cleaning her neighbor's snake enclosure.
Mandy Trecartin's Facebook page has hundreds of photos of her sons, including a few showing Noah Barthe, 4, and Connor Barthe, 6, happily scrubbing the glass enclosure, which she identified as an anaconda habitat. It was not clear whether the enclosure is the one that held the python.
Preliminary results from autopsies performed on the boys show they died from asphyxiation, officials said Wednesday. Hundreds of people in the shocked community of Campbellton, New Brunswick, gathered for a candlelight vigil Wednesday evening in a show of support for the family.
The snake, an African rock python, apparently escaped from its enclosure, slithered through a ventilation system and fell through the ceiling into the room where the young boys were sleeping, authorities said. They had been visiting the apartment of a friend whose father owned an exotic pet store on the floor below.
A snake expert said it was possible that the python was spooked and simply clung to whatever it landed on.
Authorities on Wednesday planned to remove other animals from the pet shop, though Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt. Alain Tremblay said the 4.3-meter (14-foot) python had been kept inside the apartment. Police are treating the deaths in Campbellton, New Brunswick, as a criminal investigation.
Tremblay said the snake was housed in a large glass enclosure that reached the ceiling of the apartment and escaped through a small hole in the ceiling connected to the ventilation system. He said the snake made its way through the ventilation system, the pipe collapsed and the snake fell.
The friend of the boys was sleeping in another room and was unharmed.
The pet store owner, Jean-Claude Savoie, has told a television station that he didn't hear a sound and discovered the "horrific scene" when he went into his living room on Monday morning.
Police said the snake was killed by a veterinarian. It was sent for a necropsy to confirm the type of snake and help understand what may have caused it to attack.
Mark Johnson, a spokesman for Environment Canada, said the snake was abandoned at a local SPCA in 2002 and federal wildlife officials assisted with relocating the python to the pet store.
Anne Bull, a spokeswoman for the New Brunswick's Natural Resources department, said the African rock python is no longer permitted in the province and said the department had no knowledge of the existence of the snake prior to this week's tragedy. The African rock python has been illegal in the province since 2009.
Bull said the department has obtained a search warrant for the store and said a number of exotic animals were discovered while police were investigating.
"If we discover any illegal exotic animals, they will be seized and efforts will be made to relocate them to accredited zoos," Bull said in an emailed statement.
Reptile expert Bry Loyst, curator of the Indian River Reptile Zoo in Ontario, said the New Brunswick government has asked him for help in removing animals from the pet store and taking them to accredited zoos elsewhere in the country.
Loyst said police told him it wasn't the first time that the python had escaped. Royal Canadian Mounted Police Const. Julie Rogers-Marsh said she could not confirm that because she had not heard that.
Paul Goulet, founder and co-owner of Little Ray's Reptile Zoo in Ottawa, said snakes don't recognize humans as a source of food, but if the children smelled like animals, it could explain an attack.
"If a snake sees an animal moving, giving off heat and smells like a goat, what is it? It's a goat," Goulet said.
Family spokesman Dave Rose, the boys' great-uncle, said the brothers had spent Monday at Savoie's family farm and played with llamas, goats, horses and dogs and cats before staying over at the apartment.
Snake expert John Kendrick, a manager at the Reptile Store in Hamilton, Ontario, said that if pythons are startled, they can grab something for stability, and it's possible that the python was just holding on to what it landed on, Kendrick said.
"Once they are in constricting mode, any part of their body that is touching something that moves, they'll wrap it," he said. "I've seen snakes with two different prey items at the same time, one with the back of the body and one with the front. It could have been an incident like that."
Source : Sapa-AP /gm
Date : 08 Aug 2013 08:42
The mother of two small boys strangled by a 100-pound (45-kilogram) python in their sleep earlier this week in Canada had posted photos on Facebook last year of the boys playing in and cleaning her neighbor's snake enclosure.
Mandy Trecartin's Facebook page has hundreds of photos of her sons, including a few showing Noah Barthe, 4, and Connor Barthe, 6, happily scrubbing the glass enclosure, which she identified as an anaconda habitat. It was not clear whether the enclosure is the one that held the python.
Preliminary results from autopsies performed on the boys show they died from asphyxiation, officials said Wednesday. Hundreds of people in the shocked community of Campbellton, New Brunswick, gathered for a candlelight vigil Wednesday evening in a show of support for the family.
The snake, an African rock python, apparently escaped from its enclosure, slithered through a ventilation system and fell through the ceiling into the room where the young boys were sleeping, authorities said. They had been visiting the apartment of a friend whose father owned an exotic pet store on the floor below.
A snake expert said it was possible that the python was spooked and simply clung to whatever it landed on.
Authorities on Wednesday planned to remove other animals from the pet shop, though Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt. Alain Tremblay said the 4.3-meter (14-foot) python had been kept inside the apartment. Police are treating the deaths in Campbellton, New Brunswick, as a criminal investigation.
Tremblay said the snake was housed in a large glass enclosure that reached the ceiling of the apartment and escaped through a small hole in the ceiling connected to the ventilation system. He said the snake made its way through the ventilation system, the pipe collapsed and the snake fell.
The friend of the boys was sleeping in another room and was unharmed.
The pet store owner, Jean-Claude Savoie, has told a television station that he didn't hear a sound and discovered the "horrific scene" when he went into his living room on Monday morning.
Police said the snake was killed by a veterinarian. It was sent for a necropsy to confirm the type of snake and help understand what may have caused it to attack.
Mark Johnson, a spokesman for Environment Canada, said the snake was abandoned at a local SPCA in 2002 and federal wildlife officials assisted with relocating the python to the pet store.
Anne Bull, a spokeswoman for the New Brunswick's Natural Resources department, said the African rock python is no longer permitted in the province and said the department had no knowledge of the existence of the snake prior to this week's tragedy. The African rock python has been illegal in the province since 2009.
Bull said the department has obtained a search warrant for the store and said a number of exotic animals were discovered while police were investigating.
"If we discover any illegal exotic animals, they will be seized and efforts will be made to relocate them to accredited zoos," Bull said in an emailed statement.
Reptile expert Bry Loyst, curator of the Indian River Reptile Zoo in Ontario, said the New Brunswick government has asked him for help in removing animals from the pet store and taking them to accredited zoos elsewhere in the country.
Loyst said police told him it wasn't the first time that the python had escaped. Royal Canadian Mounted Police Const. Julie Rogers-Marsh said she could not confirm that because she had not heard that.
Paul Goulet, founder and co-owner of Little Ray's Reptile Zoo in Ottawa, said snakes don't recognize humans as a source of food, but if the children smelled like animals, it could explain an attack.
"If a snake sees an animal moving, giving off heat and smells like a goat, what is it? It's a goat," Goulet said.
Family spokesman Dave Rose, the boys' great-uncle, said the brothers had spent Monday at Savoie's family farm and played with llamas, goats, horses and dogs and cats before staying over at the apartment.
Snake expert John Kendrick, a manager at the Reptile Store in Hamilton, Ontario, said that if pythons are startled, they can grab something for stability, and it's possible that the python was just holding on to what it landed on, Kendrick said.
"Once they are in constricting mode, any part of their body that is touching something that moves, they'll wrap it," he said. "I've seen snakes with two different prey items at the same time, one with the back of the body and one with the front. It could have been an incident like that."
Source : Sapa-AP /gm
Date : 08 Aug 2013 08:42
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Pet shop Proprieter Possessed no Permit for Python
The owner of a python which is thought to have crushed two infants to death in a Canadian apartment did not have a permit to keep such an animal, officials said.
Brothers Connor and Noah Barthe, aged six and four, were found dead on Monday morning in an apartment in the eastern Canadian city of New Brunswick, above a pet shop.
The pair had been enjoying a sleepover with a friend, the young son of Jean-Claude Savoie, who tends to a private menagerie of exotic animals, including an African rock python.
Police are treating the apartment as a crime scene and an investigation has been launched into how children became exposed to a 13-foot 100-pound (four-meter 45-kilo) predator.
"We were informed that a number of exotic animals were discovered while police were investigating the tragic deaths of the two boys believed killed by an African rock python," said Anne Bull, a spokeswoman for New Brunswick's Department of Natural Resources.
"That species of snake is not permitted in New Brunswick. According to our records, we have never had any involvement with this snake."
The initial police investigation suggests that the beast managed to escape from its terrarium in Savoie's apartment by nosing through a ventilation duct in the ceiling and dropping into the boys' bedroom nearby.
The brothers had spent a day playing with their friend, Savoie's son, and the family's various animals -- including llamas and goats -- before bedding down for the night on a mattress in his home.
Savoie found the young victims dead on Monday morning and alerted the authorities. Veterinary officials seized the snake and euthanized it.
Animal experts have expressed astonishment at the tragedy, many of them noting that, while an African rock python is a dangerous animal capable killing large prey, it would not normally attack humans.
But Marion Desmarcheliere, a professor of zoological medicine and the Atlantic Veterinary College, told AFP the children's day of play could have sealed their fate.
Pythons, she said, have a powerful sense of smell, and if the Barthe children still had the odor of goats upon them after their time in Savoie's mini-zoo this could have awakened the snake's hunting instinct.
"Pythons kill to eat," she said, adding that they can not see very well at night and would have been guided by smell and by the body heat of the young victims.
Police said the snake was a rock python, also known as a python sebae, the biggest snake species in Africa. It is not poisonous, but is hugely strong and capable of killing large animals including antelopes.
It is not known as a man-eater in the wild, but it is widely feared.
An autopsy has confirmed that the children died through asphyxiation, and a police investigation is underway.
The tragic deaths have triggered a wave of emotion in New Brunswick and local people were due to hold a candle-light vigil later Wednesday in memory of the children.
The deaths have also triggered a debate about Canada's patchwork of laws relating to exotic pets, with overlapping federal, provincial and local regulations leading to confusion over ownership and safety rules.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ma
Date : 08 Aug 2013 00:18
The owner of a python which is thought to have crushed two infants to death in a Canadian apartment did not have a permit to keep such an animal, officials said.
Brothers Connor and Noah Barthe, aged six and four, were found dead on Monday morning in an apartment in the eastern Canadian city of New Brunswick, above a pet shop.
The pair had been enjoying a sleepover with a friend, the young son of Jean-Claude Savoie, who tends to a private menagerie of exotic animals, including an African rock python.
Police are treating the apartment as a crime scene and an investigation has been launched into how children became exposed to a 13-foot 100-pound (four-meter 45-kilo) predator.
"We were informed that a number of exotic animals were discovered while police were investigating the tragic deaths of the two boys believed killed by an African rock python," said Anne Bull, a spokeswoman for New Brunswick's Department of Natural Resources.
"That species of snake is not permitted in New Brunswick. According to our records, we have never had any involvement with this snake."
The initial police investigation suggests that the beast managed to escape from its terrarium in Savoie's apartment by nosing through a ventilation duct in the ceiling and dropping into the boys' bedroom nearby.
The brothers had spent a day playing with their friend, Savoie's son, and the family's various animals -- including llamas and goats -- before bedding down for the night on a mattress in his home.
Savoie found the young victims dead on Monday morning and alerted the authorities. Veterinary officials seized the snake and euthanized it.
Animal experts have expressed astonishment at the tragedy, many of them noting that, while an African rock python is a dangerous animal capable killing large prey, it would not normally attack humans.
But Marion Desmarcheliere, a professor of zoological medicine and the Atlantic Veterinary College, told AFP the children's day of play could have sealed their fate.
Pythons, she said, have a powerful sense of smell, and if the Barthe children still had the odor of goats upon them after their time in Savoie's mini-zoo this could have awakened the snake's hunting instinct.
"Pythons kill to eat," she said, adding that they can not see very well at night and would have been guided by smell and by the body heat of the young victims.
Police said the snake was a rock python, also known as a python sebae, the biggest snake species in Africa. It is not poisonous, but is hugely strong and capable of killing large animals including antelopes.
It is not known as a man-eater in the wild, but it is widely feared.
An autopsy has confirmed that the children died through asphyxiation, and a police investigation is underway.
The tragic deaths have triggered a wave of emotion in New Brunswick and local people were due to hold a candle-light vigil later Wednesday in memory of the children.
The deaths have also triggered a debate about Canada's patchwork of laws relating to exotic pets, with overlapping federal, provincial and local regulations leading to confusion over ownership and safety rules.
Source : Sapa-AFP /ma
Date : 08 Aug 2013 00:18
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Crocs, Gators Siezed from Pet Shop after Python kills boys
Canadian provincial officials seized more than a dozen exotic animals Thursday from a building where two young brothers were killed by a 45-kilogram African rock python.
Officials said the Reptile Ocean pet shop in Campbellton, New Brunswick, did not have the necessary permits to keep four large American alligators, six crocodiles and a number of tortoises.
The animals were expected to be moved to zoos in New Brunswick and Ontario.
Connor Barthe, 6, and his brother Noah, 4, were killed by the python on Monday, while on a sleepover in the house of a family friend who owned the exotic pet shop.
Investigators now believe that the python was being held not in the pet shop downstairs but in the owner's apartment, in a large glass tank in the room adjacent to where the boys slept.
The 4.5-metre python somehow escaped its enclosure, slithered through the ventilation system and fell through the ceiling in the living room where the boys were sleeping.
Preliminary postmortem results showed that they died of asphyxiation, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said Wednesday.
The tragedy has shocked the community of 7,000 and reverberated across Canada.
A makeshift memorial with teddy bears and candles continued to grow across the street from the building where the brothers died. A funeral service for the boys will be held Saturday at St Thomas Aquinas church in Campbellton.
The necropsy of the snake showed the animal was in good health, RCMP said.
Maritime Reptile Zoo curator Mike MacDonald told public broadcaster CBC that the snake was in excellent condition when he handled it six weeks ago, but it was aggressive and skittish around humans.
"It's very defensive. It was extremely nervous with people," MacDonald told CBC.
"It's extremely rare. It's rare that they would kill one person let alone two people at one time."
The case has ignited a debate over the patchwork of provincial and municipal regulations governing the import of exotic or dangerous animals.
New Brunswick province loosened its constraints on the import of exotic house pets in 2009. The move allowed non-poisonous snakes up to 3 metres in length to be sold privately.
Source : Sapa-dpa /mom
Date : 08 Aug 2013 22:25
Canadian provincial officials seized more than a dozen exotic animals Thursday from a building where two young brothers were killed by a 45-kilogram African rock python.
Officials said the Reptile Ocean pet shop in Campbellton, New Brunswick, did not have the necessary permits to keep four large American alligators, six crocodiles and a number of tortoises.
The animals were expected to be moved to zoos in New Brunswick and Ontario.
Connor Barthe, 6, and his brother Noah, 4, were killed by the python on Monday, while on a sleepover in the house of a family friend who owned the exotic pet shop.
Investigators now believe that the python was being held not in the pet shop downstairs but in the owner's apartment, in a large glass tank in the room adjacent to where the boys slept.
The 4.5-metre python somehow escaped its enclosure, slithered through the ventilation system and fell through the ceiling in the living room where the boys were sleeping.
Preliminary postmortem results showed that they died of asphyxiation, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) said Wednesday.
The tragedy has shocked the community of 7,000 and reverberated across Canada.
A makeshift memorial with teddy bears and candles continued to grow across the street from the building where the brothers died. A funeral service for the boys will be held Saturday at St Thomas Aquinas church in Campbellton.
The necropsy of the snake showed the animal was in good health, RCMP said.
Maritime Reptile Zoo curator Mike MacDonald told public broadcaster CBC that the snake was in excellent condition when he handled it six weeks ago, but it was aggressive and skittish around humans.
"It's very defensive. It was extremely nervous with people," MacDonald told CBC.
"It's extremely rare. It's rare that they would kill one person let alone two people at one time."
The case has ignited a debate over the patchwork of provincial and municipal regulations governing the import of exotic or dangerous animals.
New Brunswick province loosened its constraints on the import of exotic house pets in 2009. The move allowed non-poisonous snakes up to 3 metres in length to be sold privately.
Source : Sapa-dpa /mom
Date : 08 Aug 2013 22:25
blunomore
Honorary Master
Any definite proof that the python was responsible?
Azbubu
Honorary Master
There was a show on Animal Planet a few days ago about the scourge of the African Rock Python.
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Fudzy
Guest
What about the Burmese pythons in the 'glades. Terrible result of alien species invading foreign areas.
Azbubu
Honorary Master
Well that's mostly caused by unwanted pets and according to some, Hurricane Andrew. There was fear the African and Burmese would breed resulting in a Super Python.
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Fudzy
Guest
Super Python Tornado