R699 car numbers shock

Sure...

Both Absa and Standard Bank have hit back strongly against the court action, saying that they have been caught with their pants down.
 
Wow R2.8 Billion for 24000 cars

That is a lot. If this guy had a normal 'spotter' agreement with these banks, he would have netted a oonce-off fee per vehicle financed and walked off with R24m. If there are any other agreements with the banks, he could well have made 3x this amount as well as a nice monthly royalty...
 
Fscking hell Nedbank, from being one of the better banks in terms of lending a decade ago to being so damn reckless, wtf is wrong with you ppl.
 
Oh... so none for FNB ? Glad I chose my bank right.

Sorry Nedbank and Standardbank... you can take this knock without me.

Wesbank guy was on the radio last month, they couldn't find the scheme workable after many times of checking it out, so no cars were financed through it.
 
Court action is being brought by Johan Bartosch, who is leading a group of hundreds of disgruntled Satinsky consumers, looking to declare the contracts null and void in a class action suit against the banks.

If the contracts are declared null and void how would the banks be affected?
 
If the contracts are declared null and void how would the banks be affected?

Banks should be crucified, but we all know they are whore to money themselves.
 
I won't exclude Wesbank at this stage. They have various agreements in place, when they decide to deal with other businesses.

Their entry level agreement is the so-called 'spotters fee'. For every client you refer to them and finance is successfully approved, they will pay you a R1000 commission. Then they have other agreements where people have access to great services, such as the bank parking vehicles on the dealer floor, getting a monthly fee for every finance application approved and a once-off kickback that could be as big as R10000 per vehicle financed.

People like the satinsky group is not interested in the spotter fees, they want the bigger agreements with more benefits, and I think that is what WesBank declined. I will not be surprised if these people did somehow get some of these cars financed through WesBank, but in an applicant's private capacity - and them getting a spotter fee from the bank in any event.

I have seen many such people with such business proposals approaching banks. WesBank had always been strict about who they deal with. If no agreement is entered into, they are still allowed to participate for spotter fees.
 
Average of R116 666.67 per car. Seems legit. That's whats the NP200 bakkies and Sanderos and Sparks and QQs and such go for.

Gawd, people pay that for those miserable things? You can get such good second hand (actual) cars for that.

Wesbank guy was on the radio last month, they couldn't find the scheme workable after many times of checking it out, so no cars were financed through it.

And yet conveniently they never raised an alarm.

I actually saw one of these cars on the road this morning, are there still people out there who haven't realised it was a massive scam?
 
Will the banks not repossess the vehicles and sell them on auction or will the clients retain ownership in the vehicles?

Not if the NCA rules were not complied with, if proper affordability assessments are not done by credit providers and a loan is cancelled in that manner the client keeps the money (in this case car).
 
Will the banks not repossess the vehicles and sell them on auction or will the clients retain ownership in the vehicles?

They will, but they'll still lose some money. Not many people queueing up to buy second-hand Cherys or Dacia Sanderos.
 
Will the banks not reposes the vehicles and sell them on auction or will the clients retain ownership in the vehicles?

I stand corrected, but if the contracts are declared nulled and void, I believe that the following will happen:

1. The banks will repossess all vehicles from all clients where agreements have been declared null & void.
2. A new process will commence whereby the bank will be forced to place clients back in the position they were prior to the agreement.
3. Some premiums paid will be returned. Premiums returned will be less, as the bank will take usage of the vehicle in consideration and take fees from the premiums.
4. People who sold vehicles and paid the money generated as a deposit will have to be refunded that deposit. (In fact, in some instances the banks will simply return the new vehicles to those clients, depending on what cars they sold prior to the agreement, the deposit paid, etc.)
5. The banks will then sell the repossessed cars in an attempt to make up some of their losses.

I really doubt if the banks will take a 100% knock and lose all the vehicles. There are some acts, which the banks managed to squeeze in, which protects them from something like this. Also, their insurance will most probably pay out all their losses with the addition of a little bit of profit as well.
 
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They will, but they'll still lose some money. Not many people queueing up to buy second-hand Cherys or Dacia Sanderos.

Not if its found that the NCA rules were not complied with....
 
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