Racism lives on

[Tassidar]

The rows of black people stood back from the grave sides in deference to the cemetery. They were there to honour four dead whose tombstones were still covered in silken white shrouds.

When Swartruggens teenager Johan Nel was sentenced late last year to more than 100 years for their murders, these graves were still unmarked.

Last Sunday's ceremony to raise the tombstones should have been treated with the respect of an historic moment: it was the first time black people had been laid to rest in the Swartruggens cemetery.

I can't believe that a respected publication like Independent Newspapers can publish such an utter load of ****, by an author who clearly has a BIG agenda.

The whole article presents a one-sided and completely biased point of view, and has some blatant mistruths in it.

I'm seriously tempted to boycott IOL after reading this.

 

[Sackboy]

]Marais had blamed Nel's violence on the brutality of crime and farm attacks that he said had surrounded the boy as he grew up, hoping this would explain away four charges of murder, 11 of attempted murder and one each for the illegal possession of weapons and ammunition.

I would concur. This sensitive guy had been through hell, become unstable and reacted to it.

You have to remember that British newspapers are different. They have room for different points of view, even in the papers with an obvious left/right bent. They also practice real journalism by provoking thought and debate, not cut and paste off the news-wires like they do here. A single piece doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the editor or the paper either.

Britain is also a very PC country. They've bent over backwards to accommodate immigrants from all over. It isn't making things smooth there, but the Labour party is in government and that's a way to increase votes. Racism is stands out quickly in that society. In SA, we have a history of racial tension, years indoctrination on both sides and a multitude of communities who have little in common. As Tutu once exclaimed, the situation could have been worse. That an event like this happened is not a surprise to us, but from a British perspective, it's darned outrageous.

 

[Peon]

I was not impressed by the article. It was lobsided and like a stray bullett. As if the author did not have enough action at the fight so is looking for more in the car park.

I am liable for correction, but I understand journalism to be a matter of reporting what is seen and heard in such a manner that the reader is left to make a decision on whats presented.

This was a poor piece of writing, it did no justice to the Skielerlik victims, the frightened farmers, the newspaper or the readers who paid money to read it.

 

[scatlett]

I wonder how much of the black community have come out to attend the funerals of the farmers that have been killed in the silent genocide?

 

[PoiZoNouZ]

Whites getting killed by black people is called crime. Black people getting killed by whites is racism, no matter what. Live with it.

 

[lsuacner]

Ag wish people can grow up.

 

[STS]

Whites getting killed by black people is called crime. Black people getting killed by whites is racism, no matter what. Live with it.

black people getting killed by white people is called racism, white people getting killed by black people is called genocide. i hate to think that if i ever get killed i'm going to get put down as a farm murder to support some white nationalists bulltwak agenda.

how many white people attend funerals of black people murdered in townships? as far as i know funerals are for friends and families.

 

[adrianx]

black people getting killed by white people is called racism, white people getting killed by black people is called genocide. i hate to think that if i ever get killed i'm going to get put down as a farm murder to support some white nationalists bulltwak agenda.

how many white people attend funerals of black people murdered in townships? as far as i know funerals are for friends and families.

...and all the black people that were there were friends and family? Why were there even journalists?

It sounds like a bit of black nationalist bulltwak to me.

 

[lsuacner]

black people getting killed by white people is called racism, white people getting killed by black people is called genocide. i hate to think that if i ever get killed i'm going to get put down as a farm murder to support some white nationalists bulltwak agenda.

how many white people attend funerals of black people murdered in townships? as far as i know funerals are for friends and families.

Just so you know, I am white and 2 weeks ago I attended a funeral of a black woman in the township. Two other white people also attended.
She wasn't murdered but still, don't generalise so much.

Here it is; mature, confident people do not see racism everywhere.

 

[STS]

i'd assume if they were there they were a close community or funeral crashing. has anybody bothered to check if this was true anyway? maybe there were black people buried there before, maybe there wasn't. if there wasn't, this article might be onto something.

to say black people getting killed by white people is racism "no matter what" is an idiotic and generalised remark that has no merit. imagine if i had to say all white people are racists "no matter what."

in the last few days i've been coming across articles where black on white murders have been labeled as "white genocide" by many readers. this is a horrible trend where people are turning every article into a case for them to prove a point

 

[STS]

I wonder how much of the black community have come out to attend the funerals of the farmers that have been killed in the silent genocide?

lsuacner, i am not generalising, i'm replying to this post, based on the silent "genocide" again.

and i'd like to add to what you said. mature, confident people do not see racism everywhere, but the majority of people don't realise how racist they SOUND, yet they claim to be intelligent. you can still be mature and confident, and have people be ignorant

 

[adrianx]

From a "white" point of view, you can't believe how frustrating it is to see racism disguised as "breaking stereotypes". Many people have been conditioned into believing that America sucks, but there is one "Hollywood" expression that holds true - two wrongs don't make a right. I think that that expression is even more relevant than the 10 commandments!

 

[STS]

i agree with you adrianx, but sometimes people get caught up in righting wrongs, and then forgetting to right theirs. this is just my opinion and from what i experience more of.

also, journalists often use sensastionalism to sell articles and get a point across. i'm sure people at the final ceremony for their lost ones are less worried about how it looks to outsiders. it might have meant a lot to them that their loved one's deaths actually had some signficance in the hatred that caused their loss.

 

[PeterCH]

Britain is also a very PC country. They've bent over backwards to accommodate immigrants from all over.

Britain is also a class conscious country. You may speak of racism as differences between races but in the UK the white people are judged on class,
if you speak like a commoner with a Cockney accent you're different to an educated person who speaks proper (old BBC) English. The differences in social standing go further, you can be an aristocrat or a noble or you can be one of the new rich - those who became rich in the industrial revolution of the late 18th and 19th centuries or through trade - but the two groups largely do not
inter-marry for instance because those with hereditary titles are of a higher stock than everyone else.

So on the one hand Britain is quite PC - because of all the people from the Commonwealth there - on the other hand it's a very divided society - where republics don't have such divisions.

 

[YourPsycho]

Here it is; mature, confident people do not see racism everywhere.

Guess that's the point - isn't it?

I'm in matric right and I do History; you know what they teach us? How whites screwed everyone over and that they are just wrong and black people are the victims.

Racism, racism, racism - whether we're learning about 'heritage' or 'apartheid' or even American history - it's all about what we did to black people.

I'm sick of it. Why should I be subjected to this indoctrinating bullsh*t??

Why must everything be about racial differences? We can't ever move on if our current government is pulling the same crap as our previous one.

Affirmitive action? BEE? Is that seriously the definition of equality?

Gahh, our democracy is communism with a new name....

 

[Peon]

Guess that's the point - isn't it?

I'm in matric right and I do History; you know what they teach us? How whites screwed everyone over and that they are just wrong and black people are the victims.

Racism, racism, racism - whether we're learning about 'heritage' or 'apartheid' or even American history - it's all about what we did to black people.

I'm sick of it. Why should I be subjected to this indoctrinating bullsh*t??

Why must everything be about racial differences? We can't ever move on if our current government is pulling the same crap as our previous one.

Affirmitive action? BEE? Is that seriously the definition of equality?

Gahh, our democracy is communism with a new name....

A comment of youth, well said.

 

[smokey]

Gahh, our democracy is communism with a new name....

Bah! Apartheid was facism under a new guise.

Fact is, everyone is a racist in this country - some people just control themselves more than others. after a few decades it might pass but who knows...

 

[STS]

Guess that's the point - isn't it?

I'm in matric right and I do History; you know what they teach us? How whites screwed everyone over and that they are just wrong and black people are the victims.

i'm curious as to what your textbook says exactly. is it a book or your teacher that is teaching you that white people are wrong?

Racism, racism, racism - whether we're learning about 'heritage' or 'apartheid' or even American history - it's all about what we did to black people.

i suppose it's the way it is delivered or taught, but you can't deny those things happened.

 

[TMoose]

Fact is, everyone is a racist in this country - some people just control themselves more than others.

Absolute bullsh1t.

 

[smokey]

Absolute bullsh1t.

Your view, my view - forum. Deal with it.