Racist banter

[satanboy]

People that post racist garbage are insecure ***** .

 

[nightjar]

Too the people who, for whatever reason, think race is significant factor in anything: Please crawl back into your cave and leave the rest of us alone

So!!
Is it racist when I point out that in the last few decades black athletes have generally done better than white athletes?

 

[blunomore]

From what I have seen here, more white posters are being racist towards black posters (or black people in general) than the other way around.

EITHER WAY AROUND, that should not be tolerated.

Racism is a crime in SA and should not be allowed on this Forum.

 

[Lycanthrope]

From what I have seen here, more white posters are being racist towards black posters (or black people in general) than the other way around.

EITHER WAY AROUND, that should not be tolerated.

Racism is a crime in SA and should not be allowed on this Forum.

Any facts to back that claim up? Such a silly racist claim and then to add that bit about how it shouldn't be tolerated regardless as though saying that somehow erases the racially-driven sentiment behind the claim

Personally, I have no idea how many people on here are of any specific racial background except for the (very few) who make it blatantly obvious. Although, I have to admit that I like how certain individuals seem to think that their racial group and racist view-point is majority-held and that if they spew certain racially-motivated rubbish that it will automatically be supported. Always funny when that grossly backfires

 

[blunomore]

Any facts to back that claim up? Such a silly racist claim and then to add that bit about how it shouldn't be tolerated regardless as though saying that somehow erases the racially-driven sentiment behind the claim

Personally, I have no idea how many people on here are of any specific racial background except for the (very few) who make it blatantly obvious. Although, I have to admit that I like how certain individuals seem to think that their racial group and racist view-point is majority-held and that if they spew certain racially-motivated rubbish that it will automatically be supported. Always funny when that grossly backfires

I have been here over two years and that is my experience. My post in itself is not a racist remark, it is an observation.

Take it or leave it.

 

[Sting]

Always funny when that grossly backfires

Hell yeah!!

 

[Lycanthrope]

I have been here over two years and that is my experience. My post in itself is not a racist remark, it is an observation.

Take it or leave it.

One might then lay claim to that old racist adage that X race is too lazy to work, therefore poverty is where it's at. This too might be considered nothing more than a humble observation. It would be a racially-driven observation with absolutely zero grounding in fact, however. You might instead have said that people from more conservative backgrounds (black or white) are more inclined to spew racist drivel, but instead you chose to say that X racial group is more inclined to do so, at least on MyBB.

Don't get me wrong, your intention may not have been to sound racist, but that is how it came across because, really, what does race have to do with anything? Saying that white posters are more inclined to post racist drivel is ridiculous because for all you know, white posters might be the majority of users here and therefore a couple of bad seeds (read, white people from conservative backgrounds) are inevitable. Does that mean that more white people are racist than black people? Does that have any bearing on factual reality? No, it just indicates a very narrow-minded approach to understanding the problem, which, in my opinion, does nothing more than betray underlying racial agendas.

 

[R13...]

From what I have seen here, more white posters are being racist towards black posters (or black people in general) than the other way around.

EITHER WAY AROUND, that should not be tolerated.

Racism is a crime in SA and should not be allowed on this Forum.

That's probably because white posters are in the overwhelming majority here. If you went to a 'black' forum you'd find people supporting Malema's views on race.

 

[Schavuit]

Pfft, 'racism'. One of the most inflated words these days. If you don't like something or a certain saying, just call it racist.

 

[zulgin]

From what I have seen here, more white posters are being racist towards black posters (or black people in general) than the other way around.

EITHER WAY AROUND, that should not be tolerated.

Racism is a crime in SA and should not be allowed on this Forum.

I found that most of the posters to be off the English-White South African type here, so naturally most of the responses would be that of your typical liberal. Just my 2cents. Everyone has a bit of intolerance in a multi-cultural country.

 

[porchrat]

So!!
Is it racist when I point out that in the last few decades black athletes have generally done better than white athletes?

Depends on which sports you're talking about specifically. Black athletes are definitely doing better in the running, but not in things like swimming or sledding for example. Remember those people are all "athletes" too.

 

[w1z4rd]

Yeah, some people think its okay to be racist. They really dont realize how miff they are. Things are getting a bit siff here with all the AWB wannabes.

 

[porchrat]

Yeah, some people think its okay to be racist. They really dont realize how miff they are. Things are getting a bit siff here with all the AWB wannabes.

I don't think I read enough posts in here to actually see the racism. Racism is not cool people. That hateful stuff has torn this country apart for long enough.

 

[LancelotSA]

Although, I have to admit that I like how certain individuals seem to think that their racial group and racist view-point is majority-held and that if they spew certain racially-motivated rubbish that it will automatically be supported.

The biggest problem is that some insecure (I see them that way) individuals seem to get off on the fact that if they post racist drivel they get the majority support on here and this encourages them to do so. It momentarily boosts their self esteem to have a number of posters responding with "+1" and the like. It is a bit like the geeky kid who smokes just because he thinks it'll make him cool.




For those questioning why religious "discussions" are tolerated, my personal view is that a person is free (except in certain instances of course where the religion is forced on you!) to choose their religion, you cannot choose your race.

 

[WilD_CaT]

In response to the OP:

I do have a pertinent question to ask...considering you brought up racism regarding some comments made here and gave an example of how people should behave or debate......

Is it alright to insult someone based on something else, other than race...but racism is a no-no. In other words, it is okay to discriminate/insult, but you have determined that certain criteria are not allowed to be used when we discriminate/insult...eg. race?

Why the big issue about race?

Surely you should argue that people shouldn't insult others, not that the insults are allowed as long as it is not racially related...that seems absurd and self-defeating as you are making a non-racist issue (Insulting someone) a racist one?

Besides you can't like or agree with everyone, and you can't really choose to like someone or not, either you just do or don't. If one of the reasons why person A dislikes person B is race, you are saying he should hold his tongue, but if he doesn't like person B based on say, his religious choice, or music, then thats allowed?

Again...it just seems like you are making the issue a racist one.

 

[LancelotSA]

Again...it just seems like you are making the issue a racist one.

I think you are missing the issue totally.... the OP clearly stated that if you feel the need to claim a certain race is inferior in something then feel free to do so but be prepared to back it up with some facts. The problem is that in most cases the mere fact that the person is black/white/green is put forward as proof.

You also seem to have skipped over the part where I explained my understanding of why racism is frowned upon but disagreements about religion etc are more acceptable. You can choose your religion and your choice in music but you cannot choose your race!

 

[Palimino]

Actually, I don’t think MyBB is racist (just robust). I have seen much, much worse (and not on dedicated right or left wing sites either). It usually boils down to someone being outclassed in debate and playing the racist card as a final defense before they curl into a whimpering fetal ball and notify the mods.

 

[WilD_CaT]

I think you are missing the issue totally.... the OP clearly stated that if you feel the need to claim a certain race is inferior in something then feel free to do so but be prepared to back it up with some facts. The problem is that in most cases the mere fact that the person is black/white/green is put forward as proof.

Granted if you are making a factual statement you should provide some proof, but what if you are just frustrated and a bit pi*&ed off...then is racist slander allowed? Surely you don't have to "prove" expletives.

You also seem to have skipped over the part where I explained my understanding of why racism is frowned upon but disagreements about religion etc are more acceptable. You can choose your religion and your choice in music but you cannot choose your race!

Only read the OP and haven't bothered with other posts, so yes I missed it. The problem is these things grow way to fast and most things people say, in my opinion which is not necessarily objectively correct (Only subjectively )...are stupid, contradictory and not really worth the time and effort to respond.

I.E. If someone is black why not call them that? If someone doesn't like someone, surely your rule of no racism allowed but religion bashing is ok is a bit subjective? I mean someone who is insulted based on their race might not take much offence because he might understand you're a moron, but someone who is religious might take offense to insults of their religion?

The irony is, if race doesn't matter, and you aren't racist....then when someone insults you based on your race, your reaction should be identical to your reaction if they used another insult...otherwise, from your action's, you believe race matters.



Here and there you might find a really good point, or interesting question...but reading everything is just, dull. (Anyone watched the new Sherlock Holmes?)

As for not choosing your race, well yes, so what?

One definition of racism is : discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race

Discrimination is choice. When you choose something, you are discriminating against something else (See my last post in the discrimination vs autonomy thread in the philosophical section)... now race, or gender or religion etc. are merely different criteria we use to make that choice. Now who are you or anyone else for that matter, to determine what criteria we may use when making our choices?

 

[I am Penguin]

Biggest and most frustrating problem is that many deem anything you say about the ANC, the way the country is run, crime and whenever "Current News" of SA is negative ..... as "RACIST" banter. Then they respond with old Apartheid banter and references. So what is good for the Goose must equally be as good for the Gander. It cannot be one sided. Then unfortunately there are those that deem racism is only possible with White on Black and not Black on White and neither Black on Black. So whatever some members say will always be deemed RACIST!

 

[marine1]

Seems some people here have some rather big chips on their shoulders.
Agreed on the point, the minute you say anything remotely negative about the ANC, you are a racist.
So sick of it. Grab a pair of balls and man the F up.
If you take that as being racist maybe thats your issues?