Ramaphosa explains 'Boer' comment

Electric said:
He explained racism because clearly none of us understand it :wtf:
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Yep...because you think that words or descriptors by themselves are racist....but not the discrimination based on those descriptors...sorry it went over all your heads, kind of suspected it would.

What are you guys going to do about boerewors....such a racist term for sausages?

As an aside, we get some pretty good boerwors made by an expat b**r sorry South African, but you know what I mean...not that I go out of my way for meat. Woolworths also stock so called boerwors made by someone else- not very good stuff- but they don't even call it 'farmer' sausage, instead settling on 'British Sausage'.

All in English for you guys.

cheers
 
Alan said:
Basically it's okay to use derogatory terms and hence have a prejudiced attitude if you don't actually have the power to discriminate.
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No it isn't., and I did not say so...sorry it went over your head too...it is never ok to use derogatory terms, but I contend that 'boer' in the context it has always been used has never been derogatory...you may argue the toss and disagree that is your right, you are making light of actual racism.
Tell me how the description by use of a word that implies or indicates no inferiority or slander can ever be derogatory.

Maybe it is just a desire to be the victim as well...

...focus on real racism guys...there is plenty of it coming from the ANC as well, some very bad...and then perhaps you guys will move on.
 
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Vote DA or the ape will return!

Ape means he who loot and eat without regard to put away or build.

Or

Stem VF+ of die bantoe sal regeer!

Bantoe is nattuurlik die dier soos bo genoem
 
Would you believe another statement taken out of context? The tossers use it about as often as the race card.

As for the word boer being racist? I highly doubt it. It's the crap that Cyril McDonald sprouts that is offensive. Fortunately even the inebriated are starting to realize this. In fact, in a quick poll in the office, all the black ladies agreed that Ramaphosa is giving people ideas rather than scaring them.



There were no black men and only two black ladies present at the time of discussion.
 
I see it as using the word "boer/e" to create animosity and divide the nation. In my view, that's Racism.

"Kill the boer", with the issues surrounding that statement/song, then "If you don't vote, the boers will come back to control us" makes the word, used as it is, racist. It creates a distinct and vast difference, between people who have had it deeply ingrained in them, that whites are the boere/settlers..."one setller, one bullet", I used to drive past, sprayed on the bridge in Umtata.

The word "boer/e" is a symbol, a symbol of racism, oppression and theft of land by whites...no matter that land claims are settled, no matter that there was a TRC, the songs of hatred and oppression keep being sung. The "word/symbol" of white oppression is used over and over, as exactly that kind of symbol, in hate songs and statements, keeping that difference/hatred boiling...

That's racism.

That "political" use of the word, makes it racist.
 
Lightscribe said:
I see it as using the word "boer/e" to create animosity and divide the nation. In my view, that's Racism.

"Kill the boer", with the issues surrounding that statement/song, then "If you don't vote, the boers will come back to control us" makes the word, used as it is, racist. It creates a distinct and vast difference, between people who have had it deeply ingrained in them, that whites are the boere/settlers..."one setller, one bullet", I used to drive past, sprayed on the bridge in Umtata.

The word "boer/e" is a symbol, a symbol of racism, oppression and theft of land by whites...no matter that land claims are settled, no matter that there was a TRC, the songs of hatred and oppression keep being sung. The "word/symbol" of white oppression is used over and over, as exactly that kind of symbol, in hate songs and statements, keeping that difference/hatred boiling...

That's racism.

That "political" use of the word, makes it racist.
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Perhaps a poll? How many of our Afrikaner brethren think it is a racist term?

The 'kill the boer' stuff was about hate speech. Not racism. Symbols aren't racist. Not even some conical shaped bed linen. I can only imagine what you must think of the Union Jack.
 
Albereth said:
Perhaps a poll? How many of our Afrikaner brethren think it is a racist term?

The 'kill the boer' stuff was about hate speech. Not racism. Symbols aren't racist. Not even some conical shaped bed linen. I can only imagine what you must think of the Union Jack.
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It's about context. Symbols in themselves are not racist. The symbolism attached to the word, in a particular context, makes it racist. It becomes racist, used in a particular context. The k word is used daily by millions, in the proper context, denoting non believer. It becomes racist, used by a white person in SA. Context.
 
I would not go so far as to say it was racist, however, it certainly does nothing for building race relations.

If anything, the comment is destructive in this regard and also labels the term boer with a negative connotation.

It incites or hopes to incite hatred towards a certain group... which group that is, is diificult to say...
perhaps he could explain which group he is referring to when he says "boer/e"...

a dumb thing to say regardless any explanation...
 
Lightscribe said:
It's about context. Symbols in themselves are not racist. The symbolism attached to the word, in a particular context, makes it racist. It becomes racist, used in a particular context. The k word is used daily by millions, in the proper context, denoting non believer. It becomes racist, used by a white person in SA. Context.
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I'll disagree with you there. The person using the term may be racist. The word isn't. It does convey the belief of the individual. 'Boer' isn't racist. Ramaphosa is.
 
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Necuno said:
Vote DA or the ape will return!

Ape means he who loot and eat without regard to put away or build.

Or

Stem VF+ of die bantoe sal regeer!

Bantoe is nattuurlik die dier soos bo genoem
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natuurlik ;)
 
OzzieCapie said:
No it isn't., and I did not say so...sorry it went over your head too...it is never ok to use derogatory terms, but I contend that 'boer' in the context it has always been used has never been derogatory...you may argue the toss and disagree that is your right, you are making light of actual racism.
Tell me how the description by use of a word that implies or indicates no inferiority or slander can ever be derogatory.

Maybe it is just a desire to be the victim as well...

...focus on real racism guys...there is plenty of it coming from the ANC as well, some very bad...and then perhaps you guys will move on.
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I don't know how much time you've actually spent in this country but the word "boere" is routinely used as a derogatory term by even English people towards Afrikaaners. It conjures up the image of khaki clad, dumb as dirt, abrasive and oppressive verkampte 'dutchmen' with a propensity to violence who are basically inferior. So yes you would be wrong.

Very wrong
 
Alan said:
I don't know how much time you've actually spent in this country but the word "boere" is routinely used as a derogatory term by even English people towards Afrikaaners. It conjures up the image of khaki clad, dumb as dirt, abrasive and oppressive verkampte 'dutchmen' with a propensity to violence who are basically inferior. So yes you would be wrong.

Very wrong
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Agreed, like soutie and rooineck.
 
'New boers' like Ramaphosa the real enemies of freedom: Malema

"The people of South Africa are not fools who will be frightened by such sentiments, because they know that today the real enemy for economic freedom, or even all sorts of freedom, are people like Cyril Ramaphosa, amabhuna amnyama," said.

He went further to state that "the characteristics that defined the "boers" are the same characteristics that define Cyril Ramaphosa today, one who is not afraid to go a bid to buy an animal for R18 million, and one who is possibly complicit in the massacre of mineworkers in Marikana, but will use State institutions to exonerate himself."

"To this day, the workers have not been given R12 500, and Cyril Ramaphosa is benefiting from the blood and sweat of these workers as a director of London Mine. Workers continue to suffer, when the likes of Ramaphosa have so much money who could even buy buffaloes for R18 million," Malema said.
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http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics...-ramaphosa-the-real-enemies-of-freedom-malema
 
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