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Se7enty4 said:
I have been using computers since 1980. (Sperry UniVAC, ForTran)

I believe the Microsoft OS, when combined with Active Directory are WINNERS !!!
The two offer excellent security and ease of adoption where flexibility, stability, integration and cost (especially Admin costs/fees) are concerned.
After using MS products since DOS, and then using Windows through to the current versions, these are currently the best technologies, and are constantly getting better.
Open source may be free but security from viruses are the ultimate challenge. You can't protect open source.
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Awwwwwww cute, we've got another stupid troll on our hands. Perhaps we should start showing you the research into actual turnaround times on bugfixes? Like for instance the SMB bug that was still present in XP up to Service Pack 3 (possibly even longer/later releases, I haven't checked lately), after the architecture flaw was discovered in Win2k...or maybe I should post you this link to show you the nice gaps in your favourite secure OS? Notice how the critical ones are indicated to have known exploits in the field? And how they're already being exploited en masse? And to show that I'm not just randomly attacking Windows or Microsoft, I'll refer to one of the more serious exploits that have been found in Linux in the last few years. The vmsplice() exploit which took advantage of some bad kernel code that was present across *many* versions. Total turnaround time? I first heard about it when I did some morning news checking when getting to the office one morning, there was a hotfix available that I could run by about 13h00. On the same day. Go stuff that up your precious Microsoft's ass.
 
Se7enty4 said:
I have been using computers since 1980. (Sperry UniVAC, ForTran)

I believe the Microsoft OS, when combined with Active Directory are WINNERS !!!
The two offer excellent security and ease of adoption where flexibility, stability, integration and cost (especially Admin costs/fees) are concerned.
After using MS products since DOS, and then using Windows through to the current versions, these are currently the best technologies, and are constantly getting better.
Open source may be free but security from viruses are the ultimate challenge. You can't protect open source.
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Forzty, you are wasting your time trying to explain anything to this guy. Just because he's been using computers doesn't make him an expert - at all. He's a user- that's it.

Just because I've been using a calculator since Std. 1 (todays' grade 3) doesn't make me an electronics engineer/ math doctor.
Seriously dude, get your head out your - uhm - corner.
 
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Valis said:
Um, yeah. I don't want to have to look for decryption keys for every movie I want to watch, then decrypt the movie and then download it onto my hard drive at 50 GB a movie. I'll need 10 TB of hard drive space to be able to watch my collection. Now if you could point me to some software that can do it on the fly...

Edit: I've spent many, many hours on the Linux forums researching Blu-ray playback, you're not telling me anything new here ;)
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ermm, just rip the damm movie.
 
Se7enty4 said:
I have been using computers since 1980. (Sperry UniVAC, ForTran)

I believe the Microsoft OS, when combined with Active Directory are WINNERS !!!
The two offer excellent security and ease of adoption where flexibility, stability, integration and cost (especially Admin costs/fees) are concerned.
After using MS products since DOS, and then using Windows through to the current versions, these are currently the best technologies, and are constantly getting better.
Open source may be free but security from viruses are the ultimate challenge. You can't protect open source.
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I find your first sentence hard to believe, cos then you'll know that MS Active Directory was never designed to be a scalable Directory Service.

Try running a multi-national company with offices all over the world & Active Directory as your weapon of choice....and say 2 million users. Now we all know AD likes to replicate any changes to the database.....I'll just stop here, it's just too painful to go on. :(
 
Valis said:
Um, yeah. I don't want to have to look for decryption keys for every movie I want to watch, then decrypt the movie and then download it onto my hard drive at 50 GB a movie. I'll need 10 TB of hard drive space to be able to watch my collection. Now if you could point me to some software that can do it on the fly...

Edit: I've spent many, many hours on the Linux forums researching Blu-ray playback, you're not telling me anything new here ;)
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You're also missing the key problem that the media houses' DRM requests are behind the problem in the first place. This pic makes a fairly decent summary of the situation.
 
not secure

I wonder if any of the MS fanboys realise how many of their favourite sites are running on linux servers and makes use of open source software?

Why even mybroadband is running on linux. Then again same goes for facebook, twitter, youtube and yes Google.

So I guess Linux and Open source is really not secure? Remember your ADSL router has a pretty good chance of running linux.
 
I wont shoot Microsoft down, their OS and products have their place, and many many businesses around the world are running just fine and making oodles of money while using MS products in their entirety.

Linux is simply another avenue to reach the same goal. An operating system to run applications, and other systems with the further goal of either making a business money, managing its money, protecting its money, or giving entertainment and work value to a home user.

I run both Linux and Windows on separate machines at home and both give me some or other kind of value. Life is just too busy and there are far more important things for me to do than sit and figure out which booted faster, which has the nicest colors and which one can maximize a window quicker. If others have time for that good for them.

One thing I will say, from a licensing perspective I find Linux to be cheaper obviously, but I also have the knowledge to implement it properly. If we're voting on ease of use both pre and post installs I'll give Linux 9 points and Windows 10. The only reason windows wins it for me from a retail perspective is that people know it, they're used to it from their employment and its often talked about. But I'm confident that will be a 10-10 draw one of these days very soon.
 
Facebook has 300 million users....wonder how Microsoft SQL server would handle that and what the licencing fees would be.
 
rurapente said:
I wont shoot Microsoft down, their OS and products have their place, and many many businesses around the world are running just fine and making oodles of money while using MS products in their entirety.

Linux is simply another avenue to reach the same goal. An operating system to run applications, and other systems with the further goal of either making a business money, managing its money, protecting its money, or giving entertainment and work value to a home user.

I run both Linux and Windows on separate machines at home and both give me some or other kind of value. Life is just too busy and there are far more important things for me to do than sit and figure out which booted faster, which has the nicest colors and which one can maximize a window quicker. If others have time for that good for them.

One thing I will say, from a licensing perspective I find Linux to be cheaper obviously, but I also have the knowledge to implement it properly. If we're voting on ease of use both pre and post installs I'll give Linux 9 points and Windows 10. The only reason windows wins it for me from a retail perspective is that people know it, they're used to it from their employment and its often talked about. But I'm confident that will be a 10-10 draw one of these days very soon.
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+100
 
I rather enjoyed dual booting Windows XP and Ubuntu 9.08(I think) a while back, but am now using only W7.

It took a lot of fiddling and reading through forum topics on random websites, but eventually I did get my usb wireless network dongle working. That was ultimately the most troublesome part for me.
 
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It took a lot of fiddling and reading through forum topics on random websites, but eventually I did get my usb wireless network dongle working.
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omg. stick to microsnot dude. and for all you other people... Windows is merely a kernel for DirectX. The rest Linux can do simpler, better, faster, more securely and fully customizable. and with WebGL coming along, no one will need DirectX anywayz.
 
Another problem I have with Windows is the resource hogging and bloat, My win 7 uses like 700MB of RAM, (I do have services running such as SQL server so it's a bit more than normal), but like Penn and Teller would say, that is Bull****, I use Ubuntu more and as far as I know, even with Compiz running to pull all that flashy glass and transparency effects crap, it still uses a ***ton less resources.
 
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Eonblack said:
Another problem I have with Windows is the resource hogging and bloat, My win 7 uses like 700MB of RAM, (I do have services running such as SQL server so it's a bit more than normal), but like Penn and Teller would say, that is Bull****, I use Ubuntu more and as far as I know, even with Compiz running to pull all that flashy glass and transparency effects crap, it still uses a ***ton less resources.
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Lucky guy. Mine uses 1.2GB on login with no programs open. Agree completely on the linux resource efficiency. Still prefer Windows at home though (I have opensuse 11.2 on dual boot), but Linux does the business at the office. If I was running a small/medium enterprise, I'd definitely go the linux route with open source software. Why waste profits on licensing fees, active directory etc when you only need to run 50 or so machines in one location.
 
Inaccuracy on GnuCash

rpm said:
Ready to switch to Linux?

You've heard of Linux but are you ready to make the switch from Windows?
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A great article but note GnuCash is not Linux only - it is also Windows and Mac OS. I chose to start using it for this reason so that I could migrate to another OS later if I so choose.
 
orin76 said:
Lucky guy. Mine uses 1.2GB on login with no programs open. Agree completely on the linux resource efficiency. Still prefer Windows at home though (I have opensuse 11.2 on dual boot), but Linux does the business at the office. If I was running a small/medium enterprise, I'd definitely go the linux route with open source software. Why waste profits on licensing fees, active directory etc when you only need to run 50 or so machines in one location.
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On idle, Windows uses 19% of 8GB ram on my computer. This is approx 1.5 GB Ram. Not sure what Ubuntu uses, but Lubuntu uses under 200MB.
 
Modern OS'es like Windows 7 allocate RAM dynamically, so if there is a lot free it utilizes it to speed up your system. This is a good thing. That used RAM can be freed up at any time so don't worry, it's totally still available.

Linux is great but I don't use it that much. I loved it but then I discovered OS X ...
 
Love the Penguin.

While MS continues to produce non-standard formats, the adoption of Linux will continue to be hindered.
 
Tassidar said:
Not sure what Ubuntu uses, but Lubuntu uses under 200MB.
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Pfft, I'm on 60MB with Arch + Openbox. Makes my old 1.4GHz Celeron, 1.25GB Ram notebook run like a a frigging supercomputer :D

Thing feels super snot fast even compared to my desktop (see signature).
 
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