Received my salary "increase" letter

[DrewChan]

My department [100 odd people] got an average of 6 -7% increase and they complained bitterly threatening to leave. Ungrateful people

 

[EtienneK]

My previous company gave us about 4.5% increase every 6 months. I have now moved to a new company - hoping it's that good as well... But I doubt it.

 

[TJ99]

What industry are you guys in that you get more than 20k annual increases?

If half these clowns really make as much money as they answer on the surveys, 20k per year is a very small percentage.

 

[hellfire]

This company thinks it's a f**king comedian.

To be fair, you do masturbate in the bathrooms during office hours.

What industry are you guys in that you get more than 20k annual increases?

It's been said, but R20k is not much of an increase if you're earning well. Take off 40% tax and divide by twelve, subtract pension deductions and then you're not left with much extra cash.

Last year 0%
This year I expect 0%, reason being is they're already bitching and moaning about expenditure on R&D.
Since as mentioned elsewhere, this is just a temporary I am not going to complain at all. I have now got a means to earn far more money anyway, and besides that, I cut my cellphone contract and DSTV which now nets me an effective increase of R1300 per month, not counting how much extra I bring home. So ja, who cares!

I don't know if anyone else noticed but this was a relatively positive post by Koosi. First one I've seen

 

[hellfire]

This company thinks it's a f**king comedian.

To be fair, you do masturbate in the bathrooms during office hours.

What industry are you guys in that you get more than 20k annual increases?

It's been said, but R20k is not much of an increase if you're earning well. Take off 40% tax and divide by twelve, subtract pension deductions and then you're not left with much extra cash.

Last year 0%
This year I expect 0%, reason being is they're already bitching and moaning about expenditure on R&D.
Since as mentioned elsewhere, this is just a temporary I am not going to complain at all. I have now got a means to earn far more money anyway, and besides that, I cut my cellphone contract and DSTV which now nets me an effective increase of R1300 per month, not counting how much extra I bring home. So ja, who cares!

I don't know if anyone else noticed but this was a relatively positive post by Koosi. First one I've seen

 

[Ninja'd]

I don't know if anyone else noticed but this was a relatively positive post by Koosi. First one I've seen

I spotted another one earlier. Must be cause it's Friday.

 

[noxibox]

you guys dont work

post all day on mybb

and then complain when you dont receive an increase

show me your money now

As your pay effectively goes down you should work less.

 

[HavocXphere]

As your pay effectively goes down you should work less.

Except that works out really badly in practice. Any drop in productivity - justified or not results in a black mark. Hell we get black marks for maintaining current levels (as opposed to increasing).

 

[CamiKaze]

How do you convince me management that you are doing more than you are supposed to do? Performance review time comes then they mention that you only did a few projects. Example, my profile says that I should be proficient in only 1 language, but whatever projects need to get done, regardless of the language, then it game into my lap. This is besides all the administration and even testing applications for the useless testing team.

 

[Necuno]

How do you convince me management that you are doing more than you are supposed to do? Performance review time comes then they mention that you only did a few projects. Example, my profile says that I should be proficient in only 1 language, but whatever projects need to get done, regardless of the language, then it game into my lap. This is besides all the administration and even testing applications for the useless testing team.

Life of a programmer?

 

[cguy]

How do you convince me management that you are doing more than you are supposed to do? Performance review time comes then they mention that you only did a few projects. Example, my profile says that I should be proficient in only 1 language, but whatever projects need to get done, regardless of the language, then it game into my lap. This is besides all the administration and even testing applications for the useless testing team.

What do you mean by "my profile says that I should be proficient in only 1 language"? What profile?

 

[hellfire]

What do you mean by "my profile says that I should be proficient in only 1 language"? What profile?

Assume he means job profile

 

[S1ght]

It's all relative isn't it? As you progress and earn more, you'd expect the increase % to decrease. More comparing when people get like a 20% increase when they start out vs. a 7% increase when they've been working there for 5-10 years though. Also kind of depends on your value added to the company I suppose but that's a whole different story

 

[CamiKaze]

Yeah sorry I was looking at my job profile the other day...it says that I should be proficient in 1 language...which is kind of...odd.

 

[cguy]

Assume he means job profile

The way it's worded it sounds as though his job profile is somehow preventing him from learning another language.

Camikaze, is the issue is that you only want to work on projects that match your advertized language? If so you're doing yourself a disservice.

 

[CamiKaze]

I apologize again, I was in a rush when I typed the previous message.

So here goes. If my job profile says that I should be proficient in 1 language (C), but most of the time I do C, C# forms and Web dev; but my performance only gets measured on the teams core skill (C), then isn't that... Unfair?

My Deliverables are much more than some of the members because I am fluent in the other languages as well but they limit my performance to the core skill.

Let's say I dev one thing in C, and 5 other things in C#, then at the end of the day, I only had 1 deliverable... Because once again, the core skill is C.

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Got a nice surprise today of another small increase today...

...at least it's helping pay the bills for now until I can find something different. Lots of people unhappy with the status quo here, except the damagers...

 

[The_Unbeliever]

I apologize again, I was in a rush when I typed the previous message.

So here goes. If my job profile says that I should be proficient in 1 language (C), but most of the time I do C, C# forms and Web dev; but my performance only gets measured on the teams core skill (C), then isn't that... Unfair?

My Deliverables are much more than some of the members because I am fluent in the other languages as well but they limit my performance to the core skill.

Let's say I dev one thing in C, and 5 other things in C#, then at the end of the day, I only had 1 deliverable... Because once again, the core skill is C.

What does it say on your job description sheet? If it says only C, then it's only C, and if they want you to do C# then they have to negotiate with you.

You can refuse to do it, but it's a bit of a sticky situation...

 

[Messugga]

What does it say on your job description sheet? If it says only C, then it's only C, and if they want you to do C# then they have to negotiate with you.

You can refuse to do it, but it's a bit of a sticky situation...

Err... That's not how programming jobs work and that's a pretty good way to get yourself pushed out of the company.

If your performance is being measured over only a minor part of who you do, that is something I would bring to the attention of the powers that be and try to resolve.

 

[cguy]

I apologize again, I was in a rush when I typed the previous message.

So here goes. If my job profile says that I should be proficient in 1 language (C), but most of the time I do C, C# forms and Web dev; but my performance only gets measured on the teams core skill (C), then isn't that... Unfair?

My Deliverables are much more than some of the members because I am fluent in the other languages as well but they limit my performance to the core skill.

Let's say I dev one thing in C, and 5 other things in C#, then at the end of the day, I only had 1 deliverable... Because once again, the core skill is C.

That is bizarre. It sounds like some sort of misunderstanding between you and your employer. It really shouldn't matter what language the projects are in or which skills were used for them to be considered as a contribution to your performance rating. That's like a car salesman only earning commission on Honda Accords, while being expected to sell any Honda in the store. It doesn't add up - is there perhaps some other separating factor not related to just the language? Such as, is there some big/core C application that is being developed by your group, and you are getting out-of-band requests from other departments to do work that isn't in in your job description (not just other languages, but other deliverables that your manager doesn't believe should be occupying your time)?