Recommend a car between 80K and 90K

PostmanPot said:
I reckon the cloth interior in the Golf 5 is very good. Is 'boring' really an issue once you're sitting comfortably inside your car?
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To me yes it is. The VW interiors put me to sleep.You spend your driving time inside your car and I want to be excited by as well as be comfortable in that space. If I was in OP's position I wouldn't take the Audi either, but to me it's a more exciting option.

I'll say it again though. A Golf or Polo are great buys, both for reliability and resale value. They just wouldn't be my choice because of personal preference.
 
PostmanPot said:
R5,000. But then again turbos barely ever pop.

Maintenance is on par with Polos/Golfs.

Anything under 150,000km is low mileage, 100,000km being the sweet spot.

Plenty bargains out there but although we know you love them, don't single out Audis when Mercs are solid too.
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There we have it, another Mythbusters Mybb Episode.

Ok so turbos are the new diesel tractor engine, never break and any backyard mechanic will have the spares readily avail at the local Midas and be able to cobble it all back together. In business!

If any part on your elegant new old 2hnd Audi is from the VW/Audi shared parts basket you are going to win because everyone knows an Audi is way better than a polo and why go 2nd best if the maintenance costs are the same. If anything Audi/model specific breaks just ignore it because it's not important/you can't afford it anyway.

Any well maintained Audi or Mercedes-Benz at 150000km is just amazing value for money, engine barely run in, let's just hope the seller/salesman was 100% honest and upfront about the only going on long journeys/how easy they were on the car/the awesome engine oil they used because we all know how things can quite easily turn out to be rather the opposite when buying used goods.

But don't worry and don't forget the obligatory R60k gearbox/cylinderhead etc slush fund just in case it all goes pear shaped, that'll be there gathering compound interest till that fateful day, money in the bank so they say!

So the wise money is on a higher mileage Audi or Merc, around 150000km is just awesome, must have a turbo and preferably some kind of tronic, ie tiptronic, multitronic etc, hassle free low cost motoring ftw.

Op sorry for the derail, can't let pearls of wisdom like this not be exalted.
 
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airborne said:
There we have it, another Mythbusters Mybb Episode.

Ok so turbos are the new diesel tractor engine, never break and any backyard mechanic will have the spares readily avail at the local Midas and be able to cobble it all back together. In business!

If any part on your elegant new old 2hnd Audi is from the VW/Audi shared parts basket you are going to win because everyone knows an Audi is way better than a polo and why go 2nd best if the maintenance costs are the same. If anything Audi/model specific breaks just ignore it because it's not important/you can't afford it anyway.

Any well maintained Audi or Mercedes-Benz at 150000km is just amazing value for money, engine barely run in, let's just hope the seller/salesman was 100% honest and upfront about the only going on long journeys/how easy they were on the car/the awesome engine oil they used because we all know how things can quite easily turn out to be rather the opposite when buying used goods.

But don't worry and don't forget the obligatory R60k gearbox/cylinderhead etc slush fund just in case it all goes pear shaped, that'll be there gathering compound interest till that fateful day, money in the bank so they say!

So the wise money is on a higher mileage Audi or Merc, around 150000km is just awesome, must have a turbo and preferably some kind of tronic, ie tiptronic, multitronic etc, hassle free low cost motoring ftw.

Op sorry for the derail, can't let pearls of wisdom like this not be exalted.
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any second hand car can be a lemon, 2014 or 2008 model. In fact brand new cars have also proven to be unreliable or badly built.

I'm not saying an older model Audi/BMW/Merc is the right choice, but if you want that level of class/luxury without paying an arm and a leg up front then a well looked after older model is a good buy.

Motoring is never hassle free. Some purchases are definitely worse than others, but it's all very subjective
 
airborne said:
There we have it, another Mythbusters Mybb Episode.

Ok so turbos are the new diesel tractor engine, never break and any backyard mechanic will have the spares readily avail at the local Midas and be able to cobble it all back together. In business!

If any part on your elegant new old 2hnd Audi is from the VW/Audi shared parts basket you are going to win because everyone knows an Audi is way better than a polo and why go 2nd best if the maintenance costs are the same. If anything Audi/model specific breaks just ignore it because it's not important/you can't afford it anyway.

Any well maintained Audi or Mercedes-Benz at 150000km is just amazing value for money, engine barely run in, let's just hope the seller/salesman was 100% honest and upfront about the only going on long journeys/how easy they were on the car/the awesome engine oil they used because we all know how things can quite easily turn out to be rather the opposite when buying used goods.

But don't worry and don't forget the obligatory R60k gearbox/cylinderhead etc slush fund just in case it all goes pear shaped, that'll be there gathering compound interest till that fateful day, money in the bank so they say!

So the wise money is on a higher mileage Audi or Merc, around 150000km is just awesome, must have a turbo and preferably some kind of tronic, ie tiptronic, multitronic etc, hassle free low cost motoring ftw.

Op sorry for the derail, can't let pearls of wisdom like this not be exalted.
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Yawn. Stick to buying new cars and advising women (no offence to women) and other laymen.
 
so, what's a good mileage to look at in second hand cars? is it important? how do I check if its been in an accident?
 
What interest rate can I expect to receive?
 
re: insurance, can you recommend any particular company?

thanks
 
Wall said:
so, what's a good mileage to look at in second hand cars? is it important? how do I check if its been in an accident?
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100,000km is the sweet spot as this is when most cars come out of maintenance plan. This means that if you buy a second hand car that is 5 years or less old, it's been able to get the most out of its maintenance plan. Any teething issues have been ironed out.

Compare this to what people who believe in the low mileage myth would advise. Consider buying a 5 year old car with only 50,000km on the clock, which would have potentially had another 50,000km to claim from maintenance plan. Many more teething issues could/would have been resolved which would now be for the new owner's bill.

Dealers/sellers are also taking advantage of the low mileage myth by charging considerably more for lower mileage cars.

The counter to this argument is that clutches (in the case of manuals which are the safest bet) and cams generally need to be redone between 120,000 and 180,000km. This can be fairly pricey depending on the car, but the point is that the owner would have another 120,000 - 180,000km of hassle free driving. Front suspension is also often replaced around the 120,000km mark.

P.S. Please use one post in future instead of numerous ones. It's very easy to edit one's post. TIA.
 
PostmanPot said:
100,000km is the sweet spot
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I agree with this, if for slightly different reasons. The average car today is quite capable of running to 200 000km or more before needing expensive work done on it. Below 100 000km, the seller wants more for it, because it's still got "low" mileage. Above 100 000km, buyers are wary of getting a high mileage car. So when a car hits 100 000km it's value drops. It's out of warranty and no-one wants it. But it's still got at least 100 000km (or 5 years for the average motorist) before you really have to worry about it dying on you.
 
PostmanPot said:
100,000km is the sweet spot as this is when most cars come out of maintenance plan. This means that if you buy a second hand car that is 5 years or less old, it's been able to get the most out of its maintenance plan. Any teething issues have been ironed out.

Compare this to what people who believe in the low mileage myth would advise. Consider buying a 5 year old car with only 50,000km on the clock, which would have potentially had another 50,000km to claim from maintenance plan. Many more teething issues could/would have been resolved which would now be for the new owner's bill.

Dealers/sellers are also taking advantage of the low mileage myth by charging considerably more for lower mileage cars.

The counter to this argument is that clutches (in the case of manuals which are the safest bet) and cams generally need to be redone between 120,000 and 180,000km. This can be fairly pricey depending on the car, but the point is that the owner would have another 120,000 - 180,000km of hassle free driving. Front suspension is also often replaced around the 120,000km mark.

P.S. Please use one post in future instead of numerous ones. It's very easy to edit one's post. TIA.
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And there we were thinking thumbsucking was a past time pursued solely by those younger than 5yrs old.

So these teething problem's you mention, those damn Audi's, cost the earth and they still can't make them properly!? What a bloody con!

If a car still has serious teething problems by 50000km then I'd advise staying far away from that model, what do they put those Audi's together with pritt?? Cheapskate Germans!
 
PostmanPot said:
100,000km is the sweet spot as this is when most cars come out of maintenance plan. This means that if you buy a second hand car that is 5 years or less old, it's been able to get the most out of its maintenance plan. Any teething issues have been ironed out.

Compare this to what people who believe in the low mileage myth would advise. Consider buying a 5 year old car with only 50,000km on the clock, which would have potentially had another 50,000km to claim from maintenance plan. Many more teething issues could/would have been resolved which would now be for the new owner's bill.

Dealers/sellers are also taking advantage of the low mileage myth by charging considerably more for lower mileage cars.

The counter to this argument is that clutches (in the case of manuals which are the safest bet) and cams generally need to be redone between 120,000 and 180,000km. This can be fairly pricey depending on the car, but the point is that the owner would have another 120,000 - 180,000km of hassle free driving. Front suspension is also often replaced around the 120,000km mark.

P.S. Please use one post in future instead of numerous ones. It's very easy to edit one's post. TIA.
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Nee vok. What site do you get this from?
 
Feedback: Purchased a 2012 1.6 Accent for R110K.
 
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