Remuneration shortfall for soldiers

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The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) is facing a remuneration budget shortfall of over a billion rand, secretary of defence Sam Gulube said on Wednesday.

Briefing Parliament's defence portfolio committee, Gulube said various measures were being put in place so that the shortfall did not affect the country's armed forces.

"For the remuneration of employees we are at about a R1.1b shortfall right now and every month we are going to see how are we doing in terms of reducing that shortfall and at the end of the year, definitely, I'll have to balance the books," Gulube said on the sidelines of the briefing.

The shortfall would affect performance of future deployments, but would not mean soldiers would stop being paid.

"Right now when you talk about deployments you do on the border, you don't just think about the deployments that are done physically, but you have to think about the companies that have to be there on reserve because they need to take a break. They can't be there forever," Gulube said.

"At any given time you want to have people who are in the training, people who are in rotation -- meaning they are in a rest period, and then people who are in deployment."

The SANDF would have to extend the hours of soldiers currently deployed within and outside the country's borders in order to reduce the shortfall.

"There were times when... the rotations were three months. Now they are six months and we are looking at extending that... to one year for the external deployments," Gulube said.

It would be cheaper to keep soldiers deployed than to have them relieved by other troops through rotation.

Gulube said the fallout from the shortfall was not affecting morale at this stage.

"Amazingly the morale in the deployed forces has been quite high. Everybody, most of the young members of the defence force, they are always looking forward to using the skills that they developed towards deployments, towards engagement," he said.

"Those that get into difficulties with morale and passion, will be those who are left behind in supporting roles rather than those who are deployed."

Gulube said various systems were being put in place to reduce the shortfall.

"When posts are vacant we don't fill them. We encourage people to take voluntary exit mechanisms and also we are looking at the attrition rate."


Source : Sapa /cp/jje/ks
Date : 09 Jul 2014 15:11
 
They do nothing man! Honestly... what do they do, if they could show us what they do, I'd be keen to be on their side, but honestly... I never see the SANDF doing anything useful to help while we (SA) are not in a state of war.

So many places you could use them!
They say we can't use the army in townships and stuff right... well, incorporate them into SAPS and use them as a 'strike' force or something... help them to fight the killing of rhinos... faaaaaaaark! ANYTHING!
 
and how much of the airforce budget goes towards 21 Squadron ....

The Zumastration has shown nothing but contempt for the volunteers that form the SANDF
 
They do nothing man! Honestly... what do they do, if they could show us what they do, I'd be keen to be on their side, but honestly... I never see the SANDF doing anything useful to help while we (SA) are not in a state of war.

So many places you could use them!
They say we can't use the army in townships and stuff right... well, incorporate them into SAPS and use them as a 'strike' force or something... help them to fight the killing of rhinos... faaaaaaaark! ANYTHING!
that is an executive level leadership problem

and our troops have been very busy, amongst other things they were in the Congo without proper logistics support - because unlike POTUS our long range aircraft in the executive VIP squad are not allowed to be used for ordinary troops
 
the other problem here is that not paying your army is generally a bad idea

no doubt Zuma is paying the VIP protection cops, lest Pretoria experience a reminder of what happened the last time an emperor forgot to pay the Praetorian Guard
 
that is an executive level leadership problem

and our troops have been very busy, amongst other things they were in the Congo without proper logistics support - because unlike POTUS our long range aircraft in the executive VIP squad are not allowed to be used for ordinary troops

Air Force One is used as a troop transport?
 
Air Force One is used as a troop transport?

Not as Air Force One but the VC-25 has been on standby to do so- and not as the norm - most famously during operations involving Kosovo. Need to re-find the details but essentially the USAF needed to be able to get a round of relief marines deployed and had a problem of a shortage of available long range planes so one of the two aircraft that was in service was made available and Clinton was flown in the country on another aircraft (remember Air Force One is the call sign of the aircraft).

Bush as a PR exercise transported mail and parcels for troops with him on Air Force One. So yes the message is that the President as C-in-C of the armed forces does give the plane over for troops where strictly necessary

On the other hand under Zuma we had no ability to provide logistics to our troops in the continent and persisted in deploying them - so it wasn't about getting relief troops or icecream (as with the yanks).
 
Not as Air Force One but the VC-25 has been on standby to do so- and not as the norm - most famously during operations involving Kosovo. Need to re-find the details but essentially the USAF needed to be able to get a round of relief marines deployed and had a problem of a shortage of available long range planes so one of the two aircraft that was in service was made available and Clinton was flown in the country on another aircraft (remember Air Force One is the call sign of the aircraft).

Bush as a PR exercise transported mail and parcels for troops with him on Air Force One. So yes the message is that the President as C-in-C of the armed forces does give the plane over for troops where strictly necessary

On the other hand under Zuma we had no ability to provide logistics to our troops in the continent and persisted in deploying them - so it wasn't about getting relief troops or icecream (as with the yanks).

Yeah but the US has several Air Force one's on standby. They can do that although it's more for PR.

Didn't the US recently provide logistics to the French in Africa?

It's not like Hollande sent his own planes there either.

SA should not be in places like Congo. We don't have the capability to transport these troops and no redundancy.
 
My point isn't that its not a PR exercise, it is all about PR - well PR-ish because the target isn't quite the same as ordinary public relations, it is more troop morale and so forth. The point though is when a jarhead is able to dislike the person who holds the presidency but still respect the president because the president's office is seen to be paternalistic towards the armed services you don't have the invasion of the Union Buildings by disgruntled underpaid troops.

They have two special purpose planes that serve as Air Force One, if one is out of use though then they have to use a different aircraft altogether. IIRC if POTUS uses a civilian aircraft (again mostly PR it becomes Executive Air One or something) and in the case where Clinton "gave up" the comfy VC-25 was jetted around the country in plane selected by the airforce - but it sends a message. The message is very different to one where there is still discussion about more spending on the executive air wing, a remuneration shortfall and their not being long range aircraft needed for military operations when you have presidential jet that has the appropriate capabilities. The US have a crap load of aviation logistics but operations can snap up your plane count quickly - particularly if you are moving people around the globe.
 
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