dj_jyno
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Think you mean i20.
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Trust me, the 88 means nothing, it felt more like 130KW. These new engines that are being produced are unreal.
c3n0byt3
Expert Member
Torque.
Torque is nothing more than rotational force. Massive rotational force does not equate to faster acceleration!
Yes torque is easily felt through your back side but it doesn't mean you're going fast for example a tractor has massive torque but you're not going anywhere.
That doesn't mean that Torque isn't important for acceleration. Because kw = Torque * RPM * more things I don't know.
So you can have low torque high RPM and accelerate form 0-100 in 10sec
Or you can have high torque low RPM and accelerate from 0-100 in 10sec
Seeing as torque is already part of the kw formula my guess is that kw is more important for acceleration. The ideal scenario for acceleration would be high kw and high torque though.
Yes torque is easily felt through your back side but it doesn't mean you're going fast for example a tractor has massive torque but you're not going anywhere.
That doesn't mean that Torque isn't important for acceleration. Because kw = Torque * RPM * more things I don't know.
So you can have low torque high RPM and accelerate form 0-100 in 10sec
Or you can have high torque low RPM and accelerate from 0-100 in 10sec
Seeing as torque is already part of the kw formula my guess is that kw is more important for acceleration. The ideal scenario for acceleration would be high kw and high torque though.
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I'm sorry but there is no A4 1.8T on the market with that output. The new A4 that was introduced in 2008 came out with the 1.8T producing 118kW. Since the facelift last year it is now 125kW. If you test drove one the other day, the chances are good that this is the one you drove. Obviously 125kW with a turbo is going to compare good with a normally aspirated 145kW engine.
Cheapest A4 has 88kw and 230NM for R309 500. I'd happily fork out the 20k for the extra 30 or so kw and 90nm though
Haldex
Expert Member
I see the cheapest Clio is R149 000!
Brenden_E
Executive Member
A suggestion: get a service plan that will cover the time you plan to drive it. If you plan to drive it 5 years get a 5 years service plan. Things can go pear shaped very quickly with French cars, make sure you have peace of mind.
I'm sorry that you had to log on to make your name poephol before double checking on the Audi site first.
sand_man
Honorary Master
Yip, there's no bluepoole like a bluepoole poephol...
OK so unless I have eye patches on, checking on www.audi.co.za and www.audimenlyn.co.za I couldn't find any info on an 88kW 1.8T model. Is it a new addition to the range? Is the website not updated then? Because it mentions the range starts at R319k and the 1.8T has a power output of 125kW.
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I test drove one yesterday afternoon.
All I can say is WOW.
If Renault had the same 'image' as VW, it would be selling for a similar to higher price than the Polo Comfortline.
It makes me sad to think that 70% of why the cars resale is so bad is due to Perception...
The car comes with a 5 year 150k km warranty and quite a lot of extra's in comparison to the Kia Rio for example...
the Sat-nav and 7" tablet interface makes the geek in me want that car so much.
Power is okay, not great. but most of us spend most of the time behind the wheel in traffic anyway. so on the rare occasion you can blast it, it is good enough. Ride comfort is on par or better than the polo that I tested. steering is a bit light at lower speeds, but firms up nicely at cruising speed. I don't think the overtaking power is adequate however the top speed is still 180km/h.
It is really a tough choice as to whether you buy the vehicle and suffer on the trade in/ resale but enjoy all the perks and overall quality of the car.
The only thing I didn't like on the Dynamique is that there is some finicky shiny plastic on the driver and passenger doors that will mark easily and may become a bit faded. on the centre console, it is similar, however it doesn't look out of place.
Brenden_E
Executive Member
Spyker the reason why they have poor resell value is not because of some vague perception. It's because French car's after sale service sucks. Once that car is out of warranty and it breaks, you are in for some pain.
If you don't believe me check out Hello Peter. Some horror stories on there! From my personal experience, I struggled 6 months and R30K for them to fix a computer problem. Which after 2 months returned. Trust me, not worth it.
So if you do decide to buy it, make sure you have got a warranty for the duration that you plan to drive it.
If you don't believe me check out Hello Peter. Some horror stories on there! From my personal experience, I struggled 6 months and R30K for them to fix a computer problem. Which after 2 months returned. Trust me, not worth it.
So if you do decide to buy it, make sure you have got a warranty for the duration that you plan to drive it.