RIP Charlie Kirk

Mike Hoxbig said:
The strength of the US military isn't just tied to the size of their army. They've been out in the field pretty much constantly since WW2, involved in some conflict or the other. What they have is ongoing experience, as well as experience that's been passed down from generation to generation.

You can't just build some theoretical army like China, with untested equipment and people, do some military exercises, and then go take on the yanks in a war...
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I dont suggest the Chinese need to take on the yanks in a war? To collapse the soviet union the US didn't take them on in a war, who by the way had all the same experience in war that the US currently have.

Most semi decent political observers understand you can never beat the US head on, far too many resources and a citizenry armed to the teeth, its a death wish particularly if they are united. Instead, just get them to fight amongst one another until they start tearing each other apart. Do you think its a coincidence that foreign actors set up fake left wing and fake right wing "people" to stir the pot?
 
s0lar said:
Never mind Chinese drone technology supremacy. By far, not even a contest. Never mind production capacity..
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Still pie in the sky until it can actually been properly. Remember production capacity also produce tofu buildings. Just cause you can build something fast doesn't mean you're building it to actually work.
Something the US has experience in, building quickly and ensuring it can do what it's supposed to do (besides the mk1 torpedo and maybe a few others)
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
The strength of the US military isn't just tied to the size of their army. They've been out in the field pretty much constantly since WW2, involved in some conflict or the other. What they have is ongoing experience, as well as experience that's been passed down from generation to generation.

You can't just build some theoretical army like China, with untested equipment and people, do some military exercises, and then go take on the yanks in a war...
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Ukraine has taught us war is different now days. Dirt cheap drone swarms driven by AI trumps an aircraft carrier/iron dome whatever else have you.
 
s0lar said:
Ukraine has taught us war is different now days. Dirt cheap drone swarms driven by AI trumps an aircraft carrier/iron dome whatever else have you.
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You think the US couldn't stop those? We're also literally talking about the country that has the two largest air forces in the world.
 
Lupus said:
Still pie in the sky until it can actually been properly. Remember production capacity also produce tofu buildings. Just cause you can build something fast doesn't mean you're building it to actually work.
Something the US has experience in, building quickly and ensuring it can do what it's supposed to do (besides the mk1 torpedo and maybe a few others)
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US having a hissy to audit DJI's tech stack to get to their IP. No chance they will, nothing in the market comes close. HDZero a far ways back and I believe they are Taiwanese in any event. If this is the tech us cant get right in the civilian space, who knows what China has on the military side.

dronedj.com

DJI defends its drones as Trump tightens US rules

Trump signs new executive orders reshaping US drone policy. DJI responds with security assurances amid scrutiny.
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Lupus said:
You think the US couldn't stop those? We're also literally talking about the country that has the two largest air forces in the world.
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Say a swarm of 5000 autonomous drones coming at the same time? And if so why haven't they given this to the allies in Kiev as they already are giving munitions? As Russia has alos turned to drones as the primary weapon?
 
s0lar said:
US having a hissy to audit DJI's tech stack to get to their IP. No chance they will, nothing in the market comes close. HDZero a far ways back and I believe they are Taiwanese in any event. If this is the tech us cant get right in the civilian space, who knows what China has on the military side.

dronedj.com

DJI defends its drones as Trump tightens US rules

Trump signs new executive orders reshaping US drone policy. DJI responds with security assurances amid scrutiny.
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Honestly, anything on the Chinese military side, I would take with scoops of salt or whatever. They are a paper tiger military wise, most of their tech is stolen or borrowed anyway.
 
s0lar said:
Ukraine has taught us war is different now days. Dirt cheap drone swarms driven by AI trumps an aircraft carrier/iron dome whatever else have you.
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Not really, they both have a role to play, drones are useless against hardened targets.
 
s0lar said:
Say a swarm of 5000 autonomous drones coming at the same time? And if so why haven't they given this to the allies in Kiev as they already are giving munitions? As Russia has alos turned to drones as the primary weapon?
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You're also aware the US doesn't give away it's top military items right or even sell them, there might be an export market version made.
 
LCBXX said:
It's a meme. Inhale some copium if it triggers.
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As much as it is a meme, in the context of the conversation, it is an "argument" that is brought about ad infinitum.

If you don't like the response, feel free to further exhaust your own supply of copium.
 
Lupus said:
Honestly, anything on the Chinese military side, I would take with scoops of salt or whatever. They are a paper tiger military wise, most of their tech is stolen or borrowed anyway.
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I am saying dont even look into the military side, you dont need to hazard a guess. US cant even compete in the civilian side. This is there attempt this far: https://www.unusualmachines.com/about-us/overview/

Basically looks the same as a ghetto Ukrainian drone cobbled together in the field but it complies with NDAA compliance rules :ROFL: . Honestly build better ones myself. China has all the marbles here.
 
Lupus said:
You're also aware the US doesn't give away it's top military items right or even sell them, there might be an export market version made.
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Tested in Ukraine? If so why not? And if has, not very effective/
 
Bewlen said:
As much as it is a meme, in the context of the conversation, it is an "argument" that is brought about ad infinitum.

If you don't like the response, feel free to further exhaust your own supply of copium.
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Ag no man.
Let's pour a drink and spark a joint.
It's Friday and the Americans are just Americanning for likes.
 
LCBXX said:
Ag no man.
Let's pour a drink and spark a joint.
It's Friday and the Americans are just Americanning for likes.
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Spoke to my oldest today. I couldn’t have asked for a better kid. My oldest said they would never move to America because, as messed up as South Africa is, America has more problems. They said that soon there will be no difference between South Africa and America because America will degrade to South Africa's level. Their solution is to move to a country where family values are still strong—almost any of the Asian countries—but they also pointed out that those places have their problems too. I respect my oldest, and I think they’re right.
 
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