RIP Charlie Kirk

[ShaunSA]

Oh, they sent you?

They?

Vok some of you okes are dafter than most

 

[Mirai]

No, the song doesn't belong in public spaces post 94. It served a different purpose then. It should be restricted to museums and university lecture halls like the old flag.

would you say it could denote racism if one sings such a song in 2025 and not 1994?

 

[ForceFate]

Except I didn't ask for your opinion on them. It was a simple either/or question...

I don't have opinion of them. Did they watch the videos? I don't know.

 

[ForceFate]

They?

Vok some of you okes are dafter than most

I see. What message have you been sent to deliver? Stop blabbering and deliver it.

 

[ForceFate]

Something like this?

11K views · 224 reactions | This is the reason why so many conservative South Africans loved Charlie Kirk | Busting The Myth Of White Genocide In SA

This is the reason why so many conservative South Africans loved Charlie Kirk

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I'll watch this later. Can't do so now.

 

[TheMightyQuin]

You know racism has more to do with other things than empathy, don't do?

Or any person for that matter. Just look up the word "racism".

Read your first sentence. New low for you?

So you claim that a White person can be racist even while doing good deeds for and helping POC? Wow, how convenient that must be for people like you.

This must be a new level of absolute desperation.

I guess anything goes if one wants to keep that Racism card alive...especially after all the damage that's been done to it over the years. But kudos to you for trying to ensure that whitey can never escape the racism label.

Enjoy it while it lasts...not much longer.

 

[ShaunSA]

I see. What message have you been sent to deliver? Stop blabbering and deliver it.

 

[TheMightyQuin]

I am not crazy, I am the "Bridge out" sign

Fact: Elon Musk makes Nazi salute during Trump inauguration. This is revered by MAGA and even honoured.
Fact: Israel is an Apartheid state. Undesirables are non-citizens.
Fact: Israel is doing a genocide right now, which is protected by the MAGA-ruled US and even suggests ways to do it better
Fact: American Nationalism is very much on the rise in one particular party. Everybody rallies around shouting the phrase "Deutchland Uber Alles" "Make America Great Again!" waving the flag like mad.
Fact: The ruling party in Israel is Likud – National Liberal Movement
Fact: The guys who made Apartheid called themselves "The National Party of South Africa" because they were Nationalists and valued Christian values and purity above all. They had the nickname "The Nats"
Fact: You will never guess what "Nazi" is short for.... Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or National Socialist German Workers' Party

My guy. Sometimes you just need to look around you. Nationalism is bad. We had a war about this.
Do I need to break out Dr Seuss?

Fact: Nationalism is great and needed now more than ever.

 

[Vorastra]

Funniest of all of this is watching South Africans acting like they're part of America, picking sides. As if any of this event in a different country makes ANY difference to your lives. We have our own problems at home and should be focussing our attention on that. This is all just extra noise in an endless sea of media being shoved down our throats. Pick your battles people - this isn't one of them.

It affects the entire world though. Because we all consume their **** media, and their ideas become our ideas like a festering plague. Let's not pretend like their culture isn't everywhere around us.

 

[Vorastra]

Stop picking on the coconut...

That's not @Sideshow Bob
Close though.

 

[Neptuner]

So you claim that a White person can be racist even while doing good deeds for and helping POC? Wow, how convenient that must be for people like you.

The Apartheid government built schools for POC therefore they are not racist.

 

[ForceFate]

would you say it could denote racism if one sings such a song in 2025 and not 1994?

My opinion is that the system it was fighting has been (largely) dismantled. In the absence of a system, what is it fighting? It has a different meaning now which is different from meaning it conveyed in the " good ol' days". I'd say banish it to the hallways and lecture halls of academia.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I don't have opinion of them. Did they watch the videos? I don't know.

Plenty of examples of it in which they clearly knew exactly what he was saying, and therefore defended him in aftermath of the onslaught by the loons.

Let's try another way. Would you consider this article to be racist if you substituted white <-> black throughout, and the author was white?

Charlie Kirk, White Supremacist, Dead at 31

Charlie Kirk built himself into the face of a conservative youth movement through Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Behind the branding of “patriotism” and “freedom,” the record shows a pattern of rhetoric, organizational culture, and alliances that echoed white supremacist and Christian nationalist...

racism.org

I want to see if everyone is held to the same standard, and how long before the "historical injustice" argument is brought up to condone racism as long as it's done by black racists...

 

[Decarin]

Fact: Nationalism is great and needed now more than ever.

And that right there is the void fascism steps into.

 

[ShaunSA]

And that right there is the void fascism steps into.

I see you edited it. Still rubbish though

 

[Mirai]

My opinion is that the system it was fighting has been (largely) dismantled. In the absence of a system, what is it fighting? It has a different meaning now which is different from meaning it conveyed in the " good ol' days". I'd say banish it to the hallways and lecture halls of academia.

Would you say it could be used as a reliable way to determine if someone is racist by whether they sing that song or not?

 

[Mirai]

And that right there is the void fascism steps into.

Charlie Kirk was murdered by a left wing fascist.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

And that right there is the void fascism steps into.

What's your definition of a fascist? Would you consider Stalin and Mussolini to be fascists?

 

[ForceFate]

Plenty of examples of it in which they clearly knew exactly what he was saying, and therefore defended him in aftermath of the onslaught by the loons.

Before we go any further, I'm not celebrating his death. I'm just indifferent. I care more about the little school children's deaths that hardly receive any 2nd glance from the political elite, let alone some random black person. Kirk is just another statistic like those defenceless little boys and girls.

Let's try another way. Would you consider this article to be racist if you substituted white <-> black throughout, and the author was white?

Charlie Kirk, White Supremacist, Dead at 31

Charlie Kirk built himself into the face of a conservative youth movement through Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Behind the branding of “patriotism” and “freedom,” the record shows a pattern of rhetoric, organizational culture, and alliances that echoed white supremacist and Christian nationalist...

racism.org

I want to see if everyone is held to the same standard, and how long before the "historical injustice" argument is brought up to condone racism as long as it's done by black racists...

You don't expect me to read the article now, do you?

 

[Decarin]

And that right there is the void fascism steps into.

I see you edited it. Still rubbish though

What's your definition of a fascist? Would you consider Stalin and Mussolini to be fascists?

Maybe we should ask WWII-era Dr Seuss that?