Roadblock and speed trap warnings using tech

I really do not think drunk driving and speeding should be discussed in the same topic unless one is referring to speeds in excess of 120km/h.

J0n0 said:
If you obey the law why would you need warning against roadblocks and camera's? I hate drunk drivers and more so those morons who speed on the roads.
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In further confirmation of what said above I too am opposed to those driving far in excess of the 120km/h limit but I have major issues with some of the speed limits imposed on our roads. I am yet to get fined doing over 120 but have got a number of fines in areas that are 60 or 70 zones that really should not be. I gave this example the other day :

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And another spot I have been trapped in is here :

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Now keep in mind that this is a double lane road with an island in between both directions. It is the back freeway up from Durban to Pinetown. Clearly the limit needs to reduce when you come into Pinetown and get to the robots but where they are trapping you is literally the required 300m from the 60 sign. You are doing 100, this is a steep down hill to the robots so you would literally have to put on brakes hard if you wanted to get down to the limit in time. I have now been caught here twice doing 70 odd. This is what pisses me off. This has got nothing to do with road safety but rather money making. Don't even try and tell me that me doing 75 in the approach to a robot on a major road in an industrial area is the most dangerous thing happening on our roads!
 
+1 to the above poster

Also, I call bull on the posts about flashing your lights being illegal. Sources or references please? Sounds like rubbish to me.
 
this service sucks!

more speeding cars, more stolen cars not found, more non-roadworthy cars on the road, more drunk drivers on the road.

this is basically a service which enables any idiot to drive around drunk with no repercussions - a free get out of jail card!

madness... stop this BS service!
 
K3NS31 said:
+1 to the above poster

Also, I call bull on the posts about flashing your lights being illegal. Sources or references please? Sounds like rubbish to me.
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please re-check your K53 handbook.
 
Smooth Criminal said:
Because JMPD is inconsiderate and chooses the most inopportune moments to set them up - either in the mornings when people are on their way to work or in the afternoons when people leave work.

I have no problems with roadblocks otherwise.
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Yeah, those times are silly I agree. What I don't agree with is the kind that speed and think it's ok. By speed I don't mean 140km/h on a highway. I mean the people that drive wrecklessly and go at 180km/h and above speeds that just fly past you or flash you to move over. If he was alone on the road with no cars around, and no family in his car, he can drive at whatever speed he wants because then its only his life at risk.

Drunk drivers are the worst.
 
The problem is JPMD are out to make money. They should NOT be allowed to hide in bushes and hide cameras where you can't see them. They should be there to make us drive safer. Cameras should be painted bright yellow. That would make people drive properly.

The problem is all they want is bigger pay checks so anyway to exploit us for money.

I was working at a client for a week and got caught every day for a week going on a down hill doing 78 in a 60 zone. I used to increase my speed to get up the following hill (my car aint the fastest)

I got got ever day going to and from work for a week and it cost me R8,000. and I still don't know where they were hiding.

I know in other countries by law the cameras need to be visible. Our country it is just another way to take money from the hard workers.

Makes me sick to be honest.
 
Nerfherder said:
Warning about roadblocks is illigal, you can get arrested for flashing your lights at oncoming traffic to warn them of a speed trap.
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Not true at all, spoke person for JMPD was on eTV news talking about warnings about roadblocks on facebook. He said that he thinks it will help their course since motorist would no that they need to be sober when travelling on road with roadblock.
 
LilJohn said:
Not true at all, spoke person for JMPD was on eTV news talking about warnings about roadblocks on facebook. He said that he thinks it will help their course since motorist would no that they need to be sober when travelling on road with roadblock.
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more like "know NOT to take that route and get out of jail by AVOIDING it" or "I can start drinking and driving NOW because there is no fear any more - i know where the roadblocks are"
 
Keeper said:
please re-check your K53 handbook.
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hm, don't have one handy so I can't check, but it still sounds suspicious. Like the kind of thing they throw in there without actually having a law to back it up. Any traffic officers or lawyers or something around?
I still think this is bull.
 
Keeper said:
please re-check your K53 handbook.
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It's not illegal to keep someone from breaking the law. If I see someone speeding, or skipping a stop sign I flash them whether there are cameras around or not.
The whole idea of speed cameras or metro police is to SLOW down traffic and if I can help achieve that by flashing oncoming traffic, how is that breaking the law ? I'm actually helping them.
 
Is it illegal to drive 80 in a 60 zone? Yes
Does this apply to traffic personnell when not in an emergency situation? Yes
If lights are not flashing, sirens are not sounding, and traffic personnel is driving 80 in a 60 zone, is this an emergency? No

My point is I see a cop car driving and I reduce speed just in case. He overtakes me, going over the speed limit and I wonder to myself do speed limits only apply to us?
 
Robocop said:
It's not illegal to keep someone from breaking the law. If I see someone speeding, or skipping a stop sign I flash them whether there are cameras around or not.
The whole idea of speed cameras or metro police is to SLOW down traffic and if I can help achieve that by flashing oncoming traffic, how is that breaking the law ? I'm actually helping them.
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Ok then, riddle me this.

Do you
FLASH oncoming traffic if they are above the speed limit
or do you
FLASH oncoming traffic if they are above the speed limit and there are cops and they will get caught?

you are not slowing down traffic, you are preventing the speedsters from getting caught

if they aren't warned and get caught often enough, they might stop speeding so much!

EDIT: Ah, I see you do flash people who speed even if there aren't any camera's - good on you.
 
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Traffic cops are supposed to be on locations that have particularly dangerous pieces of road, to be visible and slow down traffic to a safe speed. And I will warn anyone oncoming if I pass such a dangerous piece off road.
If you see that as keeping them from being fined, so be it. I see it as keeping them out of dangerous situations.
 
irony - when you warn other road users about a potential roadblock using this technology - and a drunk driver crashes into you and your car just because he decided to bypass the roadblock he learnt about from the information you supplied.

I will not supply any information to enable drunk (multiple afrikaans boxes) to avoid roadblocks and drive around with the possibility of killing innocent people - the safest place for such a drunk (afrikaans box) is in jail.
 
The_Librarian said:
irony - when you warn other road users about a potential roadblock using this technology - and a drunk driver crashes into you and your car just because he decided to bypass the roadblock he learnt about from the information you supplied.
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You just passed the roadblock and warned him about it. Thus he will be taking the other road (without the roadblock) so you are safer ;)

Keeper said:
or do you
FLASH oncoming traffic if they are above the speed limit and there are cops and they will get caught?
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Yes I do that, what goes around comes around. Next time I stray over the limit someone will warn me :)

And I think flashing your lights at other drivers speeding to warn about the trap is called obstructing the ends of justice or preventing them from doing their duty? :confused:
 
Dixie said:
Things should be made simple - if you had one drink, and you are caught driving, your license should be suspended for life and your car confiscated...
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Wow, how short-sighted of you.

By the same logic, one should be locked up for one yawn while driving.

After all, one would have to be retarded to not realise that being tired has a lot more effect on ones driving than one glass of wine/beer/whatever.


EDIT: And what about pain medication? As soon as someone pops some codeine (Myprodol, Syndol) and drives, you think they should be arrested? It's very, very mind-altering and it's abused a whole lot more than you think...



(Obviously everyones different with drug tolerances - everyones just as bad with tiredness :) )
 
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It is actually shocking how a thread like this (and I am referring specifically to the drunk driving arguments) reflects on most South African's tolerance of driving drunk! You actually have people arguing that driving after a few beers is not an issue!!
 
I don't think drunk driving is right - but 90% of us probably do it.

I bet hardly anyone knows just how little over the limit is ...
 
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