Ruling slammed as religious infringement

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Well it is terribly easy to infringe on Islam :rolleyes: While I like the fact that Europe does not really care when the Muslim world goes ape**** over something, perhaps they could have just allowed her to skip swimming. Then again, what about the Middle-Eastern olympic athletes? Is it OK for them? :confused:
 
Or she could have just gone to a muslim school where she would not have been exposed to the temptations of a teenage torso.
 
Don't like the school? Then piss off to another one that will bend over backwards for your beliefs.
 
I am constantly amazed at just how a glimpse of female ear or male nipple can have such a devastating effect on one's self-control.
 
whats the big deal .. just let her skip swimming classes!! why force her to learn swimming??
if she is expecting special treat, as in private lessons etc. then thats a different issue ... but if she does not want to do it, whether for religious or just cause she does not want to ... should be her right!!
 
It's not my fault you fall to temptation it's yours so stop making it mine.
 
As the ruling said: Her parents decided to come to germany and sent her to thar school.
What happened to "When in Rome do like the Romans do", or go forth or back to where you came from.
You are definitely not going to tell me in my country what or what not to do.
This is common arrogance.
 
Getafix said:
As the ruling said: Her parents decided to come to germany and sent her to thar school.
What happened to "When in Rome do like the Romans do", or go forth or back to where you came from.
You are definitely not going to tell me in my country what or what not to do.
This is common arrogance.
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This is very common for Muslims. Go to another country and cry foul when they don't want to fit in with poor little you.
 
lucifir said:
whats the big deal .. just let her skip swimming classes!! why force her to learn swimming??
if she is expecting special treat, as in private lessons etc. then thats a different issue ... but if she does not want to do it, whether for religious or just cause she does not want to ... should be her right!!
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I have to agree.

Religious reasons or no, if she doesn't want to swim, why should she be forced to? It has absolutely no bearing on her academic career.
 
Lycanthrope said:
I have to agree.

Religious reasons or no, if she doesn't want to swim, why should she be forced to? It has absolutely no bearing on her academic career.
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Different schools have different rules though. Even here, we have schools where sporting codes are compulsory. People are made aware of this prior to enrolling.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Different schools have different rules though. Even here, we have schools where sporting codes are compulsory. People are made aware of this prior to enrolling.
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Sure, but how much trouble would it be to allow those who don't want to do it to sit in a classroom and do homework or study instead while those who do want to do it, do it.

Anyone could tell you that there is no point to forcing someone to do something that they are dead set against--it only ends up ruining the activity for others and certainly does nothing to make the person who doesn't want to do it feel any better either.

Sport is great for those who enjoy it, but again, it has no bearing on a person's academic career and should not be forced on anyone who doesn't want to do it.

And anyone can tell you that it's often not quite as easy as simply finding another school. Life often isn't quite that convenient.

Many children also have insecurity issues with their bodies, forcing them to go through this sort of humiliation does nothing to benefit anyone and only serves as another demeaning act of "acceptable" bullying from adults.

It's stupid and unjustifiable.
 
We never had sports forced upon us, we could choose, cricket or soccer or tennis etc.

We had swimming and the fat girls never swam, too shy maybe? My gut feel this chick is fat and using religion to get "out" of swim class, naturally the media would pounce on it.
 
Lycanthrope said:
Sure, but how much trouble would it be to allow those who don't want to do it to sit in a classroom and do homework or study instead while those who do want to do it, do it.

Anyone could tell you that there is no point to forcing someone to do something that they are dead set against--it only ends up ruining the activity for others and certainly does nothing to make the person who doesn't want to do it feel any better either.

Sport is great for those who enjoy it, but again, it has no bearing on a person's academic career and should not be forced on anyone who doesn't want to do it.

And anyone can tell you that it's often not quite as easy as simply finding another school. Life often isn't quite that convenient.

Many children also have insecurity issues with their bodies, forcing them to go through this sort of humiliation does nothing to benefit anyone and only serves as another demeaning act of "acceptable" bullying from adults.

It's stupid and unjustifiable.
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The alternative is to enrol in a school that is more catered to the child. The counter-argument is that nobody forced her parents to enrol her at this particular school.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
The alternative is to enrol in a school that is more catered to the child. The counter-argument is that nobody forced her parents to enrol her at this particular school.
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Lycanthrope said:
And anyone can tell you that it's often not quite as easy as simply finding another school. Life often isn't quite that convenient.
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Distance (and thus public transport times) to the next nearest school, the possible religious affiliation of the next nearest school, the capacity and availability of room at the next nearest school, the cost of the next nearest school (especially if it's private), etc.

The list goes on.

As I said, life is rarely quite that convenient.
 
We were all forced to swim during P.E., and you had to wear a speedo.

Of course, nobody wants to wear what is akin to nothing but underpants infront of the entire class before diving into a freezing pool, everyone wanted to pretend they forgot their costume and get a free period instead, but they had methods to disincentivize that.
 
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Lycanthrope said:
Distance (and thus public transport times) to the next nearest school, the possible religious affiliation of the next nearest school, the capacity and availability of room at the next nearest school, the cost of the next nearest school (especially if it's private), etc.

The list goes on.

As I said, life is rarely quite that convenient.
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Whatever the reason.
Why must the school adapt to the parents wishes? BS.
 
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