S5 vs iPhone 6 plus

[faniebraai]

S5 camera with ois isn't going to be enough to beat the iPhone 6 camera I suspect. The 6+ has ois.So does the G2 and a number of phones by now.


I do agree yeah so let's see here's my comparison of the stuff people care about....what do you reckon:
Camera: iPhone 6
Battery life: S5
screen: subjective but S5 is much higher ppi so S5
Thickness and weight: iPhone 6
Looks and materials: iPhone 6
Storage capacity: S5
Speed and cpu: iPhone 6 (don't quite agree with you here. two different technologies, so difficult to tell, I'll give them a draw at the very least)
Fingerprint sensor (and other additional hardware features like heart monitor, coprocessors): iPhone 6 why the 6 and the S5? S5 have the same features, I'll give this one another draw
Durability: S5
Audio: iPhone 6
Apps: iPhone 6 (don't agree with this one, why do you say 6 on apps? I'd give it to the S5. Firstly apps are everywhere, and because of the openess of Android, apps can have functionalities that is not supported on the iPhone)
UI/UX: iPhone 6
Warranty: S5
File Sharing: S5
Customization/Launchers/Widgets: S5

Don't really agree with everything here. And you left out some things (and I'm sure there are more, but by now they are so 2nd nature to android I don't even notice it anymore)... And then considering you are comparing a brand new phone with a 6month old one, then the iPhone 6 doesn't look that impressive anymore. Now do the same thing with the 6 plus and the Note 4.

 

[Chevron]

Don't really agree with everything here. And you left out some things (and I'm sure there are more, but by now they are so 2nd nature to android I don't even notice it anymore)... And then considering you are comparing a brand new phone with a 6month old one, then the iPhone 6 doesn't look that impressive anymore. Now do the same thing with the 6 plus and the Note 4.

On the apps thing, I noticed that quite a few apps will launch their IOS version first. That's if they even have an Android version.

 

[cerebus]

Don't really agree with everything here. And you left out some things (and I'm sure there are more, but by now they are so 2nd nature to android I don't even notice it anymore)... And then considering you are comparing a brand new phone with a 6month old one, then the iPhone 6 doesn't look that impressive anymore. Now do the same thing with the 6 plus and the Note 4.

I'm sure I did so please post your own list of what I left out.

 

[faniebraai]

I'm sure I did so please post your own list of what I left out.

I did add 2, agree? don't agree? and I had some questions in there for you as well

 

[faniebraai]

On the apps thing, I noticed that quite a few apps will launch their IOS version first. That's if they even have an Android version.

I have seen this games especially. This is because of two things I think. Most game developers are in the states, where iOS is biggest. Also, they develop for far less devices, so I believe testing can go a lot quicker. But as time goes by, the gap is becoming smaller and smaller of these lead times, to the point where the big developer companies are releasing at the same time.

 

[Chevron]

I have seen this games especially. This is because of two things I think. Most game developers are in the states, where iOS is biggest. Also, they develop for far less devices, so I believe testing can go a lot quicker. But as time goes by, the gap is becoming smaller and smaller of these lead times, to the point where the big developer companies are releasing at the same time.

Actually it's because on average IOS users spend more when buying apps.

I've noticed some paid apps on IOS are free, but ad supported on Android. I'd prefer to pay and be ad free.

 

[faniebraai]

Actually it's because on average IOS users spend more when buying apps.

I've noticed some paid apps on IOS are free, but ad supported on Android. I'd prefer to pay and be ad free.

Yes, also true. AFAIK, and a type under correction, the billing model of Apple almost forces the hand of the developers on iOS to charge differently/more than how Google does it.

 

[cerebus]

Speed and cpu: iPhone 6 (don't quite agree with you here. two different technologies, so difficult to tell, I'll give them a draw at the very least)

A draw because of what? A8 is faster than Snapdragon 801. It's not hard to tell, it's clear as crystal in the benchmarks. Don't just randomly assign draws unless you have some solid basis.

Fingerprint sensor (and other additional hardware features like heart monitor, coprocessors): iPhone 6 why the 6 and the S5? S5 have the same features, I'll give this one another draw

The quality of the TouchID and those other features on the 5s is way ahead of the S5 - sorry no chance of a draw here.

Apps: iPhone 6 (don't agree with this one, why do you say 6 on apps? I'd give it to the S5. Firstly apps are everywhere, and because of the openess of Android, apps can have functionalities that is not supported on the iPhone)

More and better quality apps on the iOS app store, that's why. Also the phones aren't emburdened with Samsung's shovelware apps like S Health and Messaging, that duplicate Play Store functions and make dogmeat out of the UX.

File Sharing: S5
Customization/Launchers/Widgets: S5

I lumped those in with UI/UX - certainly, customization/launchers/widgets is in that category; overall I still consider iOS to have a better user interface and user experience. File sharing I'll give to Android as it's notoriously a bad point for iOS. But it kind of goes for every Android phone out there; the S5 isn't anything special in that regard.

 

[faniebraai]

A draw because of what? A8 is faster than Snapdragon 801. It's not hard to tell, it's clear as crystal in the benchmarks. Don't just randomly assign draws unless you have some solid basis.

OK, so its faster in an iphone, will it perform the same in another device, probably not... but ok. I'll give it back to the iPhone.

The quality of the TouchID and those other features on the 5s is way ahead of the S5 - sorry no chance of a draw here.

Completely don't agree here. Make me understand why. imo both do exactly the same. Same for the heart rate monitor. And where is the 6's IR blaster?

More and better quality apps on the iOS app store, that's why. Also the phones aren't emburdened with Samsung's shovelware apps like S Health and Messaging, that duplicate Play Store functions and make dogmeat out of the UX.

They are there. If you don't like them, don't use them. More options shouldn't be a disadvantage. Which apps gives you a better quality that you can/can't find on the play store? This was the case a couple of years ago, but everything is mostly on par now. S Health is actually a nice looking and functional app now. I still don't use it and use Endomondo, choices... we've been having it.

I lumped those in with UI/UX - certainly, customization/launchers/widgets is in that category; overall I still consider iOS to have a better user interface and user experience. File sharing I'll give to Android as it's notoriously a bad point for iOS. But it kind of goes for every Android phone out there; the S5 isn't anything special in that regard.

You lumped it into UI/UX and still gave it to iPhone? Wow, not baised at all I see. Their user interface is as basic as basic can be. Even the blackberry 8520 had a better user interface. No home screens. You basically unlock the phone straight into your app drawer (in android terms). With the customization options out there, I can make my phone look and feel like iphone, not that I want to, but the option is there. Can you make it look and feel like an android? What about multi tasking? What about having a floating video while you use the rest of your phone. And just because a feature is not specific to the S5, should I now discount it? The 5S and the 6 is going to have exactly the same features, except for a camera improvement and NFC, so we'll have to discount the whole iPhone 6 now, except the camera. Damn.

O yes, NFC... welcome to 2012. What can you use your NFC for except apple pay? Nothing? What a pity. What about bluetooth? O I see... Nice song you having playing there, can you send it to me? Let's just use direct wifi? No? O, what about bluetooth? Still not... Well, just plug it into my pc here and transfer it manually? WTF is a iTunes?

 

[cerebus]

OK, so its faster in an iphone, will it perform the same in another device, probably not... but ok. I'll give it back to the iPhone.

Yes it would perform the same in another device. It's a faster SoC than the 801. I'm not sure where it stands compared to the Exynos 2433 or 805 but it's clearly far ahead of the S5.

Completely don't agree here. Make me understand why. imo both do exactly the same. Same for the heart rate monitor. And where is the 6's IR blaster?

Have you actually used the TouchID fingerprint sensor in 5s? It's miles ahead of the S5's. And iPhone6's seems to be improved from the 5s. You don't get points for shoving me-too pieces of hardware in a device - it actually needs to work and be functional. The IR blaster in the S5 is actually more functional than its heartrate monitor.

They are there. If you don't like them, don't use them. More options shouldn't be a disadvantage.

They gunk up the UI and duplicate functionality, and they were complained about by every reviewer. More features is a disadvantage if the features aren't a real improvement.

Which apps gives you a better quality that you can/can't find on the play store? This was the case a couple of years ago, but everything is mostly on par now.

Pretty much all of them are better quality on iOS. That's the general impression I have now. I can't believe after this many years I still need to search for an audio codec to play a video file type, for instance. Or that the framerate of games is still so choppy (Kingdom Rush: Frontiers and RR3 are the ones I'm comparing).

S Health is actually a nice looking and functional app now. I still don't use it and use Endomondo, choices... we've been having it.

Gunk... you've been having it. I've personally disabled every custom app on my G2 apart from the knock on, which actually works.

You lumped it into UI/UX and still gave it to iPhone? Wow, not baised at all I see.

I did yes. What is customisability if not UI/UX? Having to spend hours tweaking to get a result that suits you is not UX, it's an absence of UX.

I can make my phone look and feel like iphone

No you can't. I've tried that and the result is shambolic and only highlights how far apart the operating systems really are.

O yes, NFC... welcome to 2012. What can you use your NFC for except apple pay? Nothing? What a pity.

What are you using NFC for now? I haven't found a reason to switch it on with the G2 yet. Apple Pay is an actual use case. Tap-to-file-transfer is an uncomfortable gimmick.

What about bluetooth? O I see... Nice song you having playing there, can you send it to me? Let's just use direct wifi? No? O, what about bluetooth? Still not... Well, just plug it into my pc here and transfer it manually? WTF is a iTunes?

iPhone has bluetooth and bluetooth SE and uses them both often. What you're talking about is file transfer which I already said Android does much better.

 

[GreyBush]

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-benchmark-results,news-19584.html

Ouch...

 

[faniebraai]

Yes it would perform the same in another device. It's a faster SoC than the 801. I'm not sure where it stands compared to the Exynos 2433 or 805 but it's clearly far ahead of the S5.


Have you actually used the TouchID fingerprint sensor in 5s? It's miles ahead of the S5's. And iPhone6's seems to be improved from the 5s. You don't get points for shoving me-too pieces of hardware in a device - it actually needs to work and be functional. The IR blaster in the S5 is actually more functional than its heartrate monitor.


They gunk up the UI and duplicate functionality, and they were complained about by every reviewer. More features is a disadvantage if the features aren't a real improvement.


Pretty much all of them are better quality on iOS. That's the general impression I have now. I can't believe after this many years I still need to search for an audio codec to play a video file type, for instance. Or that the framerate of games is still so choppy (Kingdom Rush: Frontiers and RR3 are the ones I'm comparing).


Gunk... you've been having it. I've personally disabled every custom app on my G2 apart from the knock on, which actually works.


I did yes. What is customisability if not UI/UX? Having to spend hours tweaking to get a result that suits you is not UX, it's an absence of UX.


No you can't. I've tried that and the result is shambolic and only highlights how far apart the operating systems really are.


What are you using NFC for now? I haven't found a reason to switch it on with the G2 yet. Apple Pay is an actual use case. Tap-to-file-transfer is an uncomfortable gimmick.


iPhone has bluetooth and bluetooth SE and uses them both often. What you're talking about is file transfer which I already said Android does much better.

You are comparing your G2, instead of the S5. Your G2 is not the one being compared here, but at least I know now I should stay away from LG for now. Having to spend hours is a choice. My default UX is still better than the iPhone interface, and I'm talking about TouchWiz which is a piece of schit.

Yes I can. Of course I won't get the smoothness of it, but the look is there. Actually, I can take any launcher, and just add shortcuts from all my apps onto the home screens, bob's your uncle, there's the iphone interface.

NFC tags can be used to perform functions like "if i have a tag on my bed side table, when i tag it, it automatically puts it into night mode", or I can have one at my desk so when I tag it, it switches sounds, wifi and whatever else I want with one tap to what it should be becauce I'm at work. Tap to transfer is not really uncomfortable, and one doesn't have to use, there are other options <- options. something you lack on ios.

OK, this is now getting into your and my opinion which obviously differs.

 

[Fudzy]

I'd gladly swap my S5 for an iPhone 6 Plus, the file system restrictions that Android have imposed really takes a lot away from the experience. And don't get me started on the irritating things like the big home button bringing the device out of sleep mode when it's in your pocket (solved this by rooting) and the little protective flap over the USB is made from some cheap plastic so it's started to get chipped away on the side it's opened from.

 

[Dolby]

I've tried that and the result is shambolic and only highlights how far apart the operating systems really are

iOS is more of an app switcher than a OS. It's got it's idle state of home screen - and then switching between apps

 

[AstroTurf]

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-benchmark-results,news-19584.html

Ouch...

When they got the nits on the S5 so terribly horribly wrong (actually hits around 698 nits) I stopped reading.

Actually I'll read some more


Brightness:
698 Nits

mpressive Brightness
OLED displays had previously been somewhat to significantly dimmer than competing LCD displays up until the Galaxy S4 and Galaxy Note 3. The Galaxy S5 continues the OLED brightness improvements in a big way… It’s an impressive 22 percent brighter than the Galaxy S4 and a solid 13 percent brighter than the Galaxy Note 3. For most image content it provides over 400 cd/m2 (Luminance, which is a measure of Brightness sometimes called nits), comparable or higher than most LCD displays in this size class. As discussed below, the very low screen Reflectance of the Galaxy S5 further improves the effective Screen Brightness in high Ambient Light. Even more impressive is that when Automatic Brightness is turned On, the Galaxy S5 hits an incredible 698 cd/m2 in high Ambient Light, where high Screen Brightness is really needed, which is 47 percent brighter than the Galaxy S4 and 6 percent brighter than the Note 3 with Automatic Brightness turned On – it’s the brightest mobile display that we have ever tested. An impressive achievement for OLED technology! See the Brightness and Contrast section for measurements and details.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm

Color Gamut and accuracy:
Too many colours? :/

The Galaxy S5 Cinema Mode provides the most accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used in virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, HDTVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Absolute Color Accuracy for the Cinema Mode is an Excellent 2.2 JNCD, the most color accurate display we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet. See this Figure for an explanation and visual definition of JNCD and Color Accuracy Plots showing the measured Color Errors. Use the Cinema Mode for the best color and image accuracy, which is especially important when viewing photos from family and friends (because you often know exactly what they actually should look like), for some TV shows, movies, and sporting events with image content and colors that you are familiar with, and also for viewing online merchandise, so you have a good idea of exactly what colors you’re buying and are less likely to return them. See the Color Accuracy section and Color Accuracy Plots for measurements and details.

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm

Audio:
Yep, Can't argue there

Performance:
Can't argue there either

N.O.V.A.
To many variables, irrelevant.

Sunspider:
Irrelevant.

Some popular benchmarks are no longer relevant — SunSpider is a popular JavaScript benchmark that was designed to compare different browsers. However, according to at least one expert, the data that SunSpider uses is a small enough benchmark that it’s become more of a cache test. That’s one reason why Google came out with their V8 and Octane benchmark suites, both are better JavaScript tests than SunSpider.” According to Google, Octane is based upon a set of well-known web applications and libraries. This means, “a high score in the new benchmark directly translates to better and smoother performance in similar web applications.” Even though it may no longer be relevant as an indicator of Java-script browsing performance, SunSpider is still quoted by many bloggers. SunSpider isn’t the only popular benchmark with issues, this blogger says BrowserMark also has problems.

http://mostly-tech.com/tag/sunspider/

Graphics:
Not much arguing I can do there cept I would like to see more tests.

Anyway, personal view? the 6plus is on par with the months old s5 in just about every relevant aspect.

 

[zippy]

iOS is more of an app switcher than a OS. It's got it's idle state of home screen - and then switching between apps

Unix isn't an os? iOS is basically Unix with power management for mobile devices. Btw, isn't that the primary function of an os? To manage applications and switch them(schedule). An app is an application.

 

[faniebraai]

I'd gladly swap my S5 for an iPhone 6 Plus, the file system restrictions that Android have imposed really takes a lot away from the experience. And don't get me started on the irritating things like the big home button bringing the device out of sleep mode when it's in your pocket (solved this by rooting) and the little protective flap over the USB is made from some cheap plastic so it's started to get chipped away on the side it's opened from.

So you have rooted, then the file system restrictions shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?

O yes, thanks for bringing up the flap. Is the iPhone water and dust resistant?

 

[noxibox]

What the price difference between the 16, 64, and 128 for you? To get mine from 16 to 144, by buying a 128gb micro SD will be cheaper.

Can Android integrate the additional storage seamlessly with the internal storage of the device, such that it acts like one single piece of storage?

 

[faniebraai]

Can Android integrate the additional storage seamlessly with the internal storage of the device, such that it acts like one single piece of storage?

No, why?

 

[AstroTurf]

Can Android integrate the additional storage seamlessly with the internal storage of the device, such that it acts like one single piece of storage?

If possible you would likely brick the phone when the sd breaks or you remove it.