SA Politics Thread Part 10 : The GNU Has Crashed

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Inertia said:
The "checkmate" that the ANC thought they delivered by firing a DA Deputy Minister with no real powers will backfire horribly. It is not possible for the DA to go along with such a direct and threatening move. This was a declaration of war and they have no choice but to strike back as hard and fast as possible. Cereal serves at the pleasure of the DA and he has just torpedoed his Presidency. Mark this post as turning point of his career.
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We can still sit down and sort this out the African way.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
It's not a hope, the decline is inevitable. The question is who those people will vote for.

Most of the RET already left to vote for EFF and uBaba's stokvel. Leaving the moderates behind, who have no interest in these populist policies. What would be interesting to know is what the split is between RET/moderates in the ANC's remaining voter base...
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The whole point of being the biggest party is to govern, it will be kinda hard to do that with 20%, especially if you are an unlikeable party like the DA, I mean there will be like 80% parties out there who don't like you, not even Freedom Front can help you in that situation.
 
TheChamp said:
The DA would be critical of MONCs right now they have been losing a lot of those recently, I don't think they even recall when last they successfully passed a MONC.
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They can lose them all, and win only the one that matters the most. It's funny how that works, is he a gambling man. Does he really want to take that chance?
 
R13... said:
I read that. All it does is report that the various players and decision makers have close relationships. Which doesn't seem to be illegal. To hark back on the Zuma daughter one, she was qualified on paper but no one but a moron would argue that she would have got the job if she wasn't Zuma's spawn. We ask the same of the DA woman employing a relative of his comrade's in their office. Those jobs always go to friends and cronies.
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Yeah, right.

The Guptas were also poor innocent honorable businessmen we were just hating on because ...

Just like the poor innocent businessmen of the Aurora mine ...

Do you think there's anything wrong with your mind?

 
TheChamp said:
The whole point of being the biggest party is to govern rule, it will be kinda hard to do that with 20%, especially if you are an unlikeable party like the DA, I mean there will be like 80% parties out there who don't like you, not even Freedom Front can help you in that situation.
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FTFY
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:
Yeah, right.

The Guptas were also poor innocent honorable businessmen we were just hating on because ...

Just like the poor innocent businessmen of the Aurora mine ...

Do you think there's anything wrong with your mind?
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You guys seem to have this blindness that makes you refuse to read with understanding.
 
TheChamp said:
Straight from the Gogo's mouth, totally out of ideas on how to grow the party.

www.businesslive.co.za

Helen Zille says DA relying on ANC’s disintegration to become majority party

DA is the second-largest party in the GNU, but sees itself becoming the majority party over the next decade
www.businesslive.co.za www.businesslive.co.za
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Soon the DA is going to be the 40% party with all the ex-ANC supporters, the frog boiler showed the voters Johnny is not so bad by dragging him along to the USA. The FF+ is going to be the official opposition with all the folks baling from the DA.

Fun times.
 
Quicks said:
They can lose them all, and win only the one that matters the most. It's funny how that works, is he a gambling man. Does he really want to take that chance?
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He clearly welcomes the chance since he told them to F off with their idle threats.

So it's very simple, give Cyril a name to replace Whitfield or risk all the jobs of comrades children and relatives by taking your chances with a MONC.

I know what option President Moonshot would choose after some strong and firm advise from Mrs Beaumont.
 
Inertia said:
What is wrong with waiting for your opponent to self destruct and claim the spoils?
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A reality check: already the ANC is a minority party with the majority not having voted for them. How the mighty have fallen with the feeding and shenanigans that even in South Africa, of all places, it does not cut mustard anymore.
 
Would be petty if this is the reason to call a MONC and collapse the GNU of all things.

At least do it on a real issue, otherwise just creates instability for no reason.
 
TheChamp said:
The whole point of being the biggest party is to govern, it will be kinda hard to do that with 20%, especially if you are an unlikeable party like the DA, I mean there will be like 80% parties out there who don't like you, not even Freedom Front can help you in that situation.
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And that's the issue. No party is supposed to be "likeable", it's not supposed to be a popularity contest. It's supposed to be who delivers their mandate best, and whether there's enough appetite for it from the voters. Government is supposed to deliver services, that is their primary function.

The issue is firstly in SA there's deep mistrust of white people. And secondly there are some personalities in the DA that might rub people up the wrong way. There's no problem problem with the DA as a party - their mandate is actually very similar to the ANC of old, before they went full RET...
 
TheChamp said:
So there is no word for democracy in Afrikaans or English?
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such wise! :ROFL:

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Unhappy1 said:
What makes you think the DA would allow some common left winger on the internet to tell them what to do?
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Just some clarification: There is no such thing as a left wingers.

Left whingers - maybe. But commonly it's looney lefties or left-oids.

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