SA Politics Thread Part 12

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Agent69 said:
I'm torn between the two, on the one hand I can see the authoritarian manoeuvre by Mkhwanazi, but on the other hand our media likes to put itself above all and the ultimate morality that can't be questioned...
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Are there issues in the media.. Yes.

Do you solve them by doing what he is suggesting? Fsck no, never.
 
TheChamp said:
And the DA itself did say they lost Afrikaans votes.
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They did...I can definitely point to some Afrikaans wards in CT where the DA vote increased in 2024 with a concomitant decrease in the FF vote (also supported by post-election analysis by Dawie Scholtz) but it's not true that all FF voters are hardcore AWBers either. Probably a very tiny subset of FF voters would support the AWB.
 
R13... said:
Why y'all so triggered by the association between the DA and AWB types?
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Because it makes no sense, and just seems like the usual "le everyone is right wing racist" spiel.

No actual AWB would ever vote for DA. They are more at home at Verkramptes+.

On Renaldo, yes, he's a more right-wing oke now, but hardly AWB.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Are there issues in the media.. Yes.

Do you solve them by doing what he is suggesting? Fsck no, never.
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Most military type guys that dabble in politics have this tin pot dictator thing going on, Mkwanazi hates them because they give him a hard time about the police killings.
 
TheChamp said:
So your objection is that it's not all of them?
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How the heck am I supposed to know. Of course there are some racists in and who support the DA. I don't know the numbers, just like you don't.

At the same time, there is a good percentage of black racists in the ANC.

What does that mean?

Nothing. There will always be racists on both sides, luckily they never gain control, unless they form their own party like the EFF.
 
Agent69 said:
Oke is probably the biggest victim in SA, and he isn't even South African.
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It’s hard trying to be a stand-up comedian on the internet with only 3 jokes and one guy who ever laughs at them. He has deserved his victim status in my books
 
OutlawJoseyWales said:
How the heck am I supposed to know. Of course there are some racists in and who support the DA. I don't know the numbers, just like you don't.

At the same time, there is a good percentage of black racists in the ANC.

What does that mean?

Nothing. There will always be racists on both sides, luckily they never gain control, unless they form their own party like the EFF.
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Do you still remember what the discussion was about when you got involved? Because you have just agreed with what you called "the stupidest and most ignorant thing you have ever heard"
 
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TheChamp said:
Do you steal remember what the discussion was about when you got involved? Because you have just agreed with what you called "the stupidest and most ignorant thing you have ever heard"
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Ah jeez man, stop debating like a novice, or being disingenuous.

Your implication was that those who voted for the FF+ were in fact all AWB in disguise. In other words racists, all of them.

I disputed that point, not that there weren't any racists, just that you can't say that they were all racists.

I was disagreeing with you because you were dealing in absolutes, that they were all racist.

But that seems to be your style. DA = all racists, ANC = all non-racists. Time to grow up and debate/think with common sense rather than your usual emotional worship of the ANC and it's propaganda (which you so easily fall for over and over).
 
OutlawJoseyWales said:
Ah jeez man, stop debating like a novice, or being disingenuous.

Your implication was that those who voted for the FF+ were in fact all AWB in disguise. In other words racists, all of them.

I disputed that point, not that there weren't any racists, just that you can't say that they were all racists.

I was disagreeing with you because you were dealing in absolutes, that they were all racist.

But that seems to be your style. DA = all racists, ANC = all non-racists. Time to grow up and debate/think with common sense rather than your usual emotional worship of the ANC and it's propaganda (which you so easily fall for over and over).
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He won't debate the big things.. Cos he loses those every time.
 
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