SA Politics Thread Part 12

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Why South Africa needs to completely overhaul its security institutions

The current inquiries into the scandal-ridden SA Police Service, along with other developments in the security cluster, show how pressing the need for change is. Perhaps, more importantly, we now need to consider what kind of security apparatus South Africa needs in a post-ANC era.
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Professor William Gumede has argued, in the Sunday Times, that SA’s entire intelligence apparatus — all of our intelligence agencies — should be shut down.


He is entirely correct. It seems impossible that they can be reformed with almost any of the current leaders in place.
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Agree.
As Gumede argues, perhaps it’s time for an outsider, someone who is not a South African, to play a leading role in recreating these agencies.
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Disagree. Rather get a highly qualified SA oke, who is non-ANC/EFF/MK, to lead the reforms.
There is not much precedent for a democratic country closing an entire intelligence agency and starting again (this tends to happen only at the end of wars or during a transition from oppression to democracy — as when apartheid ended, or during the integration of East and West Germany).


In Colombia, the president decided that the rot in the intelligence agency was so deep that it had to be shut down.


Given that we are approaching a period when our politics will no longer be dominated by the ANC, we need to consider what our security apparatus should look like. This includes the intelligence agencies, the SA Police Service (SAPS) and the SA National Defence Force.
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Solution for SAPS: Disband and devolve policing to the provinces.
 
TheChamp said:
To prove that Verwoerd was right?
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If anything he was proved right when the country was placed on the grey list

It doesn't take any great foresight to get off the greylist when the actions to be done are known

So no, I am happy we are off the greylist

Based on your statement you prove you have no idea what the problem is
 
I M D said:
If anything he was proved right when the country was placed on the grey list

It doesn't take any great foresight to get off the greylist when the actions to be done are known

So no, I am happy we are off the greylist

Based on your statement you prove you have no idea what the problem is
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Its friday, the stipends have arrived, he is drunk on the black label. A more convincing argument will follow on Monday.

For now, he will post about ActionSA, and revert back to the GLM once morning arrives.
 
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