SA Politics Thread Part 12

[ToxicBunny]

It's a sunset clause, after 150 years the race based methods are dropped and we move on to means based methods to address any discrepancies that might still exist.

So why not use the means based methods from the start? Surely it would be more effective to have a stable system that you don't need to change after 150 years.

 

[ShaunSA]

150 years later and you will still be jumping up and down for a tap.

A small correction. In 150 years his grandson will be jumping up and down for a tap

 

[Jer1cho]

A small correction. In 150 years his grandson will be jumping up and down for a tap

Small correction, his 20 grandchildren.

 

[ghaye]

So why not use the means based methods from the start? Surely it would be more effective to have a stable system that you don't need to change after 150 years.

Simple truth is that your way won't still that shouting racist little voice in the head. The current way feels better.

 

[ShaunSA]

Small correction, his 20 grandchildren.

I stand corrected

 

[TheChamp]

So why not use the means based methods from the start? Surely it would be more effective to have a stable system that you don't need to change after 150 years.

It would not work, unfortunately democracy has not just empowered the previously oppressed, it has also empowered the same oppresser, and the oppresser will obviously fight tooth and nails to preserve the status quo, backed up by the same democracy that is supposed to lift up the oppressed.

The race based legislation seeks to override that loophole.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Simple truth is that your way won't still that shouting racist little voice in the head. The current way feels better.

Ahh so its about retribution and not the future and building a better life for all.

Makes sense I suppose. The future is hard.

 

[ToxicBunny]

It would not work, unfortunately democracy has not just empowered the previously oppressed, it has also empowered the same oppresser, and the oppresser will obviously fight tooth and nails to preserve the status quo, backed up by the same democracy that is supposed to lift up the oppressed.

The race based legislation seeks to override that loophole.

But we have clear and present evidence that your race based utopia doesn't work, as it is currently in play and has failed. Democracy is not the culprit in this.

The race based legislation very clearly seeks to entrench a new oppressor rather than uplift up the oppressed. That is all it does.

 

[Kung Fu Porkchop]

It's a sunset clause, after 150 years the race based methods are dropped and we move on to means based methods to address any discrepancies that might still exist.

i.e. let's blame everything and everyone for everything we f**ked up

 

[Jer1cho]

It would not work, unfortunately democracy has not just empowered the previously oppressed, it has also empowered the same oppresser, and the oppresser will obviously fight tooth and nails to preserve the status quo, backed up by the same democracy that is supposed to lift up the oppressed.

The race based legislation seeks to override that loophole.

Over a Trillion rand stolen in 30 years. 5 or 6 Trillion will be gone in that 150 years. Be sure to make some good provisions for that.

 

[Nom Chompsky]

Remember @TheChamp is advocating for these clowns to be re-elected even though there is a much better alternative.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995759511571697751

 

[ghaye]

It would not work, unfortunately democracy has not just empowered the previously oppressed, it has also empowered the same oppresser, and the oppresser will obviously fight tooth and nails to preserve the status quo, backed up by the same democracy that is supposed to lift up the oppressed.

The race based legislation seeks to override that loophole.

Could you possibly expand on this status quo that you mention? I'm trying to understand what you mean by this.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Remember @TheChamp is advocating for these clowns to be re-elected even though there is a much better alternative.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995759511571697751

They need a tender for new couches to handle the additional girth of the new oppressors.

 

[ShaunSA]

Remember @TheChamp is advocating for these clowns to be re-elected even though there is a much better alternative.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1995759511571697751

Does @TheChamp have a word for maintenance?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Does @TheChamp have a word for maintenance?

I think its called "Tender"

 

[ghaye]

I think its called "Tender"

*Tendah!

 

[TheChamp]

Could you possibly expand on this status quo that you mention? I'm trying to understand what you mean by this.

Some people believe in the finders keepers mentality, so like "apartheid was bad, hard luck to those it did dirty, but I will keep what I got out of the system, you keep what you got, and we start on a clean slate" .

 

[ShaunSA]

I think its called "Blue Lambos for Maumela and a Tap for Thechamp"

That's a mouthful

 

[ToxicBunny]

That's a mouthful

Eish, just call it a Tembisa Special.

 

[ShaunSA]

Poor Sugar Gogo's wig and make-up are wilting in the heat