SA Politics Thread Part 12

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TheChamp said:
Some people believe in the finders keepers mentality, so like "apartheid was bad, hard luck to those it did dirty, but I will keep what I got out of the system, you keep what you got, and we start on a clean slate" .
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I hate to tell you this, but that didn't really clear anything up.
 
TheChamp said:
Some people believe in the finders keepers mentality, so like "apartheid was bad, hard luck to those it did dirty, but I will keep what I got out of the system, you keep what you got, and we start on a clean slate" .
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Some people also believe in the tooth fairy felatting the cookie monster.
 
ghaye said:
You are wilfully attributing Trumps comments to the "right wingers". But then you know that.
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Champy struggles to adjust his talking points at the required speed these days, give him a few days and they'll start shifting to be closer to last years reality.
 
Mariner said:
There was no such plan. That plan emerged during the Mbeki administration. It was never part of the agreements at CODESA, which put all people of SA on an equal non racial footing. The 1996 Constitution also reneged on the CODESA agreements for a non racial South Africa.

Are you aware that the unintended consequences of attempts to disenfranchise 8% of the population have made 92% poorer and enriched the 8%?

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That's interesting, I've always assumed that these policies were part of the initial agreement/codesa.
I remember the period around 94 well, my dad was particularly pessimistic and kept going on about how "these people have no idea how to run a country ".....being a very young man around then, I was very optimistic and hopeful and thought my dad to be a grumpy old fart.....I know better now.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Champy struggles to adjust his talking points at the required speed these days, give him a few days and they'll start shifting to be closer to last years reality.
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Everyone has noted that you and @ghaye have completely demolished @Mariner and @Solarion on fake claims of white genocide. That is why you two have respect of mybb. You two never go tribal route.
 
TheChamp said:
It would not work, unfortunately democracy has not just empowered the previously oppressed, it has also empowered the same oppresser, and the oppresser will obviously fight tooth and nails to preserve the status quo, backed up by the same democracy that is supposed to lift up the oppressed.

The race based legislation seeks to override that loophole.
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Oppression today fixes oppression from the past? Do those oppressed today get to be the oppressor in the future to balance things out again?
 
TheChamp said:
It would not work, unfortunately democracy has not just empowered the previously oppressed, it has also empowered the same oppresser, and the oppresser will obviously fight tooth and nails to preserve the status quo, backed up by the same democracy that is supposed to lift up the oppressed.

The race based legislation seeks to override that loophole.
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The race based legislation is the loophole...

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