SA Politics Thread Part 12

[wingnut771]

Has everybody forgotten what happened in Cape Town when the army was deployed in gang areas, when the DA called for them to be deployed?

Yes, what happened? Did the commander in chief listen to the DA and deploy the army or what?

 

[Mariner]

Yes, what happened? Did the commander in chief listen to the DA and deploy the army or what?

They were deployed. It was a disaster, and they were withdrawn. Soldiers are not allowed to fight citizens plus have no powers of arrest or jurisdiction over civilians. Gangsters are civilians and citizens.

 

[wingnut771]

They were deployed. It was a disaster, and they were withdrawn. Soldiers are not allowed to fight citizens plus have no powers of arrest or jurisdiction over civilians. Gangsters are civilians and citizens.

What happened? Did the same thing happen with the zama zamas?

 

[Agent67]

https://www.netwerk24.com/nuus/politiek/gwarube-het-haar-oog-op-n-da-leierspos-20260124-0856

Called it. Gwarube is being lobbied to run for Federal Chairperson or one of the deputy chair positions.

 

[Nom Chompsky]

Despite Champy's assertion earlier in the week that Aunty Helen's JHB campaign is dead...it's in fact very much alive:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015420207355805984

 

[Mariner]

What happened? Did the same thing happen with the zama zamas?

The SANDF was deployed to assist SAPS with crime operations on the Cape Flats in July 2019.

What did deploying the army into Cape Town’s townships achieve?

This article is interesting but – as the author makes clear – it reflects perception, rather than the crime statistics. Martin Source: Groundup Hanover Park resident: “There comes the a…

martinplaut.com

As Cape Flats' army deployment comes to an end, did it achieve anything? | The Citizen

The army was deployed to combat gang violence on Cape Town's mean streets last year, and the boots will soon be stomping off into the sunset again.

www.citizen.co.za

More Than 1,000 Arrests, Army Deployed Yet Bodies Still Pile Up

The South African National Defence Force sent troops into townships in the Western Cape after communities living on the Cape Flats, held captive by gangs and their mayhem, pleaded with the ruling African National Congress to bring an end to their plight. The call was answered and the army was...

allafrica.com

As Cape Flats' army deployment comes to an end, did it achieve anything? | The Citizen

The army was deployed to combat gang violence on Cape Town's mean streets last year, and the boots will soon be stomping off into the sunset again.

www.citizen.co.za

 

[Grant]

Yes, what happened? Did the commander in chief listen to the DA and deploy the army or what?

very stupid to deploy a country's military against it's own citizens.
more importantly, military is trained to defend our borders - soldiers shoot to kill, they are not trained for the purpose of urban policing - there is too much that can go wrong, very quickly !

 

[wingnut771]

very stupid to deploy a country's military against it's own citizens.
more importantly, military is trained to defend our borders - soldiers shoot to kill, they are not trained for the purpose of urban policing - there is too much that can go wrong, very quickly !

All the shooting was over by the time they were deployed in dbn.

 

[Nom Chompsky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015278030944362519

 

[Inertia]

Well, she's been in the party for years. And on some things, she strikes me as someone who is in the moderate wing of the party instead of the classical liberal JS or the more social liberal GHL/Pappas.

She's also been aligned with Gogo and JS many times, like Sarupen.

So was that fellow who was the mayor of Midvaal (now he is spit-shining Zuma's boots). As was Dion George. Current tenure doesn't mean that much. I haven't seen anything of her ideologies except trying her best to keep a low profile. Sarupen has shown remarkable fiscal fortitude and has been praised all round

 

[Inertia]

A party that only grows in polls, not in real elections, a party in distress.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015341459285668338

It could be worse, the DA could be shrinking in polls AND elections, like the ANC

 

[Inertia]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015278030944362519

And if I had wheels I'd be a bus

 

[Next Thing]

I think the biggest problem is the cops getting infiltrated by the drug gangs, not necessarily a matter of the cops not having capacity.

No the real problem is the ANC members being involved with drug gangs and then being put into positions of power in the country

 

[Sideshow Bob]

 

[Sideshow Bob]

This is more about the global restructuring of Nissan than anything the ANC have done unfortunately.

And Chery very likely put an offer on the table that made it easy for Nissan to walk away from a factory without the insane costs to do so.

Is that all you have to say ? Nothing about how we are all gonna be slaves to Chinese masters ? How do you sleep at night ?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Is that all you have to say ? Nothing about how we are all gonna be slaves to Chinese masters ? How do you sleep at night ?

Easily, I have accepted our new Oriental overlords, they're less batshyte cray cray than the Orange Don.

 

[HAL 9000]

very stupid to deploy a country's military against it's own citizens.
more importantly, military is trained to defend our borders - soldiers shoot to kill, they are not trained for the purpose of urban policing - there is too much that can go wrong, very quickly !

 

[Oldfut]

Is that all you have to say ? Nothing about how we are all gonna be slaves to Chinese masters ? How do you sleep at night ?

I wonder if Chery will be collecting the import incentives and enjoying the tariffs that make ANC SA consumers pay over the top for vehicles?

 

[Sideshow Bob]

Remember the good old days when ANC Ministers were jealous of DA Minister's success in the GNU?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2014738889819246712

Is this the beekeeper suit ?

 

[Next Thing]

Is that all you have to say ? Nothing about how we are all gonna be slaves to Chinese masters ? How do you sleep at night ?

That is a given
The chinese have their own way of working and business models