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I don't know what is going on with SADV in Port Elizabeth. I've created so many support tickets and they say that it has been escalated to Vumatel but nothing seems to ever change.

1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-8-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.8) 29.565 ms23.031 ms22.612 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 22.916 ms22.769 ms23.007 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 22.900 ms22.884 ms24.331 ms
4ce-0-3-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.31.1) 41.918 ms44.574 ms40.860 ms
5ce-0-2-0-1.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.15.249) 45.109 ms44.796 ms39.616 ms
6ae-3-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.28.8) 54.412 ms38.876 ms38.368 ms
7cloudflare.ixp.joburg (196.60.8.198) 39.585 ms39.628 ms38.894 ms
81.1.1.2 (1.1.1.2) 39.165 ms38.321 ms38.633 ms


1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-8-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.8) 25.514 ms22.992 ms23.014 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 24.546 ms22.629 ms23.066 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 22.958 ms22.891 ms22.921 ms
4ce-0-3-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.31.1) 42.456 ms46.500 ms39.394 ms
5ce-0-2-0-1.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.15.249) 45.089 ms46.357 ms39.430 ms
6ae-3-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.28.8) 38.681 ms38.429 ms38.552 ms
7196-60-9-182.ixp.joburg (196.60.9.182) 39.145 ms39.250 ms39.052 ms
8dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 38.560 ms38.667 ms39.703 ms


1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-8-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.8) 29.799 ms22.646 ms22.935 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 23.362 ms23.159 ms23.000 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 23.648 ms23.904 ms23.229 ms
4ce-0-2-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.30.1) 41.119 ms46.147 ms39.543 ms
5ce-0-2-0-1.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.15.249) 44.550 ms46.126 ms39.581 ms
6ae-4-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.29.8) 38.657 ms38.870 ms40.061 ms
774.125.51.130 (74.125.51.130) 41.388 ms40.482 ms40.305 ms
8172.253.65.181 (172.253.65.181) 39.936 ms39.600 ms42.650 ms
9216.239.40.249 (216.239.40.249) 42.327 ms55.866 ms44.400 ms
108.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 39.982 ms44.311 ms39.879 ms

I don't understand why it is all skipping CINX and hitching a ride on Seacom all the way to JHB.

Anybody have any insight?
 
Cloudflare Cape Town has been re-routed according to Cloudflare's status page. 8.8.8.8 is JHB only I believe. And I'm not sure about 9.9.9.9 (but I have a feeling it is JHB only too).
 
Cloudflare and Google USED to be +-20ms on SADV. On Frogfoot it was 12-15ms.

SADV used to go from PE -> JHB at +-20ms. Frogfoot used to go PE -> CPT at 12-15ms.

I only started using Quad9 a few months back but I'm pretty sure it was also around the 22ms on SADV.

Those tables are terrible though. I can't ever remember getting routed like that.

Note: I forgot to mention, those are all performed directly on their Calix ONT/router combo so my network isn't interfering with anything.
 
Here are some images I sent to SADV on 3 September after 15:00:

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Older ones from August 12:

1gt-tris-bras1.sadv.net.za (41.222.138.19) 35.993 ms30.815 ms30.132 ms
2gt-tris-cr1-sfp1-2.sadv.net.za (41.222.138.4) 30.315 ms29.737 ms29.920 ms
3gt-tris-br2-sfp8-2002.sadv.net.za (41.222.139.103) 33.534 ms*29.940 ms
4pch-1.jinx.net.za (196.223.14.16) 32.687 ms35.490 ms30.635 ms
5dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 29.814 ms29.982 ms29.961 ms

1gt-tris-bras1.sadv.net.za (41.222.138.19) 34.825 ms29.865 ms29.919 ms
2gt-tris-cr1-sfp1-2.sadv.net.za (41.222.138.4) 31.089 ms29.632 ms30.184 ms
3gt-tris-br2-sfp7-2001.sadv.net.za (41.222.138.119) 30.150 ms29.936 ms30.248 ms
4cloudflare.jinx.net.za (196.223.14.109) 33.597 ms30.496 ms30.434 ms
5one.one.one.one (1.1.1.1) 30.018 ms29.783 ms29.922 ms
 
WhatsApp from a Vumatel technician:

"Hi. I spoke to our Networks today and they have advised that in P.E we are having capacity issues that is affecting all customers connected to the PE node. A lot of other customers are also having issues with speed. unfortunately there is nothing much that can be done until the capacity issue is fixed on the P.E network. This issue is only in P.E at the moment."

"I will keep in touch for when this issue is resolved that side and we can do further testing. apologies for the inconvenience."
 
HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 58.961 ms57.837 ms61.023 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 61.286 ms60.926 ms59.716 ms
3cloudflare.ixp.capetown (196.60.70.198) 64.090 ms64.153 ms59.157 ms
41.1.1.2 (1.1.1.2) 59.144 ms59.014 ms59.862 ms


HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 59.831 ms58.039 ms58.491 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 58.851 ms59.276 ms57.904 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 59.118 ms58.974 ms57.876 ms
4ce-0-2-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.30.1) 79.075 ms78.324 ms80.704 ms
5ce-0-2-0-1.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.15.249) 76.506 ms78.637 ms79.382 ms
6ae-3-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.28.8) 78.724 ms78.863 ms73.894 ms
7196-60-9-182.ixp.joburg (196.60.9.182) 80.923 ms75.018 ms76.622 ms
8dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 73.279 ms73.687 ms74.459 ms
 
HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 18.944 ms17.402 ms17.159 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 17.072 ms17.684 ms17.094 ms
3cloudflare.ixp.capetown (196.60.70.198) 18.155 ms17.675 ms17.993 ms
41.1.1.2 (1.1.1.2) 17.096 ms16.883 ms17.098 ms

08:26 on Tuesday morning, when nobody is using their connections.
 
What's your Google and Quad9 trace-routes looking like now? Is it back to around the +-20ms mark?
 
joshsparkie said:
What's your Google and Quad9 trace-routes looking like now? Is it back to around the +-20ms mark?
Click to expand...


HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 19.645 ms17.836 ms16.814 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 17.327 ms17.107 ms17.065 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 17.320 ms17.009 ms17.207 ms
4ce-0-2-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.30.1) 40.687 ms38.099 ms39.818 ms
5ce-0-2-0-1.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.15.249) 38.317 ms34.839 ms39.723 ms
6ae-3-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.28.8) 32.969 ms33.368 ms32.653 ms
7196-60-9-182.ixp.joburg (196.60.9.182) 46.763 ms32.612 ms33.394 ms
8dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 31.305 ms32.507 ms32.454 ms

EDIT: forgot the Google..


HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 20.986 ms16.766 ms17.129 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 17.057 ms16.552 ms17.065 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 17.430 ms17.017 ms17.069 ms
4ce-0-3-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.31.1) 37.274 ms38.294 ms39.529 ms
5ce-0-2-0-1.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.15.249) 39.840 ms35.531 ms39.669 ms
6ae-3-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.28.8) 32.993 ms32.776 ms32.694 ms
774.125.51.130 (74.125.51.130) 33.411 ms34.882 ms36.220 ms
8172.253.65.179 (172.253.65.179) 32.863 ms33.785 ms34.185 ms
9172.253.65.253 (172.253.65.253) 33.562 ms33.172 ms33.477 ms
108.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 33.397 ms34.088 ms32.726 ms
 
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Looks good, more or less similar to FF (when we don't have capacity issues) & when routed through CPT. If you ever get those +-20ms to Google or Quad9 be sure to get a traceroute, will be interesting to see how they route it. Best pings I got on FF (when routed through JHB) to Google/Quad9 was +-27ms but was most of the time around 29ms. When routed through Cape Town my average to Google/Quad9 is also +- 29ms.

There must be a way they can optimise their network to also get 10/11ms to Cape Town like FF has, not sure where the extra +-6ms comes from on your first hop.

Hope they can fix your capacity problem soon :)
 
Thanks man. I'll continue to monitor it and report back if/when things change.

I see "Vodacom in discussions to buy Vumatel and DFA" so things could change again. I assume good ol PE would be last to be integrated and optimised into the red beast.
 
HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 18.784 ms10.789 ms11.027 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 11.314 ms11.582 ms11.065 ms
3cloudflare.ixp.capetown (196.60.70.198) 12.425 ms18.203 ms11.702 ms
41.1.1.2 (1.1.1.2) 10.992 ms11.305 ms11.237 ms

Very nice for Cloudflare... I'll test it at random times over the weekend to see if it was just a quiet morning or if they have actually made changes.

HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 18.625 ms10.894 ms11.139 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 11.193 ms11.273 ms11.236 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 11.193 ms11.268 ms10.942 ms
4ce-0-3-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.31.1) 29.756 ms34.259 ms31.325 ms
5xe-0-0-0-9.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.13.193) 29.055 ms29.101 ms27.619 ms
6ae-4-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.29.8) 27.243 ms27.381 ms27.060 ms
7196-60-9-182.ixp.joburg (196.60.9.182) 27.559 ms27.500 ms27.713 ms
8dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 27.165 ms27.114 ms26.691 ms


HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 20.007 ms11.353 ms10.307 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 11.278 ms10.883 ms10.774 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 23.432 ms11.390 ms11.408 ms
4ce-0-2-0-0.cr-02-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.30.2) 34.662 ms32.546 ms30.111 ms
5xe-0-0-0-8.cr-02-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.9.181) 29.285 ms28.987 ms30.219 ms
6ae-4-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.29.8) 27.462 ms27.478 ms27.390 ms
774.125.51.130 (74.125.51.130) 28.640 ms29.110 ms28.616 ms
8172.253.65.179 (172.253.65.179) 27.189 ms29.145 ms29.194 ms
9172.253.65.253 (172.253.65.253) 34.983 ms30.799 ms30.331 ms
108.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 57.961 ms28.085 ms33.172 ms
 
HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 20.536 ms11.184 ms10.963 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 12.802 ms10.923 ms10.855 ms
3cloudflare.ixp.capetown (196.60.70.198) 11.928 ms12.019 ms12.071 ms
41.1.1.2 (1.1.1.2) 11.261 ms11.337 ms11.012 ms


HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 18.349 ms10.947 ms11.054 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 11.285 ms11.216 ms10.963 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 11.336 ms11.441 ms11.410 ms
4ce-0-3-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.31.1) 34.410 ms30.499 ms31.335 ms
5xe-0-0-0-9.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.13.193) 29.405 ms27.233 ms27.631 ms
6ae-4-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.29.8) 27.812 ms26.946 ms26.932 ms
7196-60-9-182.ixp.joburg (196.60.9.182) 27.574 ms27.579 ms27.556 ms
8dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 26.771 ms26.784 ms26.848 ms
 
HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 27.786 ms23.317 ms22.782 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 23.243 ms22.737 ms22.995 ms
3cloudflare.ixp.capetown (196.60.70.198) 26.383 ms24.542 ms36.169 ms
41.1.1.2 (1.1.1.2) 22.860 ms24.072 ms23.120 ms


HopsTime 1Time 2Time 3
1bras-res-sh-plat-41-242-168-10-cpt.sadv.co.za (41.242.168.10) 29.166 ms22.853 ms22.846 ms
241.242.168.1 (41.242.168.1) 22.772 ms22.917 ms23.099 ms
3105.22.65.145 (105.22.65.145) 23.237 ms45.912 ms22.973 ms
4ce-0-3-0-0.cr-01-cpt.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.31.1) 42.298 ms46.362 ms39.519 ms
5xe-0-0-0-2.cr-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.8.225) 39.380 ms42.217 ms39.621 ms
6ae-4-0.pp-01-jnb.za.seacomnet.com (105.16.29.8) 39.383 ms39.085 ms38.957 ms
7196-60-9-182.ixp.joburg (196.60.9.182) 41.014 ms42.081 ms39.489 ms
8dns9.quad9.net (9.9.9.9) 39.176 ms38.772 ms39.175 ms
 
Last few days I can't do a tracert via ICMP or UDP anymore. Directly from the Calix router/ONT:

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