****sakes I hate iPods

Where's iC when you need him? :D
 
BlueCollar said:
Why the F_CK do I have to install the biggest, most bloated piece of software EVER (*cough* iTunes *cough*) just to be able to copy MP3s to and from the iPod?
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There are plenty of 3rd party apps - why do you expect Apple to *give* you an alternative app in addition to iTunes? It's like bitching at TomTom because they only give you their own software to update the damn thing. Where's the logic in that?

The reason why you cannot just copy mp3s directly to the iPod (a-la flash drive) is because of the extra stuff - playlists, song ratings, song playcount, skipcount, etc and not the least the info that enables iTunes and the iPod to keep track of the copy protected songs off the iTunes Store. The obscured way of storing stuff on the iPod is not because they want to make life difficult for you - it's probably to avoid getting sued out of business by the MPAA/RIAA and co.

And the handful of times they have changed, it got reverse-engineered and published in a matter of hours, which is why there so many apps that can do the job. Just google for it.

Why do I have to continually download 60MB+ update files just to be able to use my MP3 player?
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Disable the updates and stop complaining.
 
I hated owning my iPOD, you have to install a stupid itunes and then, and then!
If you move / delete the mp3s off the location where it was, itunes deletes it from your ipod!

I did however eventually find '3rd party' software that allows you to upload/download/delete/edit songs onto/off the ipod without the need for itunes.

can't remember the name, but if you own a nice big ipod, consider finding it.
 
gdiza said:
I hated owning my iPOD, you have to install a stupid itunes and then, and then!
If you move / delete the mp3s off the location where it was, itunes deletes it from your ipod!

I did however eventually find '3rd party' software that allows you to upload/download/delete/edit songs onto/off the ipod without the need for itunes.

can't remember the name, but if you own a nice big ipod, consider finding it.
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Deja Vu. . . . but no, you dont.
 
gdiza said:
If you move / delete the mp3s off the location where it was, itunes deletes it from your ipod!
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Any chance that might have something to do with iTunes being set to *SYNC*? Sheesh, set it to "Manually manage music"
 
koffiejunkie said:
The reason why you cannot just copy mp3s directly to the iPod (a-la flash drive) is because of the extra stuff - playlists, song ratings, song playcount, skipcount, etc and not the least the info that enables iTunes and the iPod to keep track of the copy protected songs off the iTunes Store. The obscured way of storing stuff on the iPod is not because they want to make life difficult for you - it's probably to avoid getting sued out of business by the MPAA/RIAA and co.
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Why not use existing technology, IE. MP4 allows any information to be stored in the file and not to mention that all of what you mentioned can be stored using a playlist file (m3a) and a ID3v2 tag.

The only reason for it is control, which they need to convince the RIAA.

The only feature you mention that is missing from MP3 is DRM.
 
My point is that Apple has made the iPod a rather unfriendly piece of hardware to use. I'm actually surprised that it's so dominant in the market coz I find it really difficult to come to grips with using the iPod, and I'm more tech savvy than your average consumer. I want a device where I can just copy and paste files from Windows explorer into the device. I'm annoyed that even though there are alternatives to iTunes, I have to search for them, install them, and then use a third party piece of software just to copy files to the device. Crapness.
 
BlueCollar said:
My point is that Apple has made the iPod a rather unfriendly piece of hardware to use. I'm actually surprised that it's so dominant in the market coz I find it really difficult to come to grips with using the iPod, and I'm more tech savvy than your average consumer. I want a device where I can just copy and paste files from Windows explorer into the device. I'm annoyed that even though there are alternatives to iTunes, I have to search for them, install them, and then use a third party piece of software just to copy files to the device. Crapness.
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I agree. Used my ipod about three times before selling it on. Overrated. They sure are good at their marketing though.
 
when it comes to the smaller ipods, i totally agree.
but i have just bought the 160gig ipod, and it is the sexiest beast i have ever seen, it holds my whole music library, all my new movies, and their larger brothers for direct play onto a tv.
i love music and i love my ipod.
im not saying every1 else is wrong as they might have had bad experiences, but mines a dream!
:D:eek::D:eek::D
 
Gnome said:
Why not use existing technology, IE. MP4 allows any information to be stored in the file and not to mention that all of what you mentioned can be stored using a playlist file (m3a) and a ID3v2 tag.
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Scanning one database file for that info is far quicker than scanning multiple files. Even just scanning the playlists in my music collection would take a few seconds at least.
 
I have to say I agree with WILDFIRE. I love my 30Gig 5.5G iPod Video. You can't get iPod like functionality (or even capacity) from almost all other mp3 players. If you want drag and drop, get a 1Gig generic player with a 8x24 pixel black and white screen. If that's what you want, stop complaining about the small effort of installing and using iTunes and get your drag and drop capable player!
 
carderne said:
I have to say I agree with WILDFIRE. I love my 30Gig 5.5G iPod Video. You can't get iPod like functionality (or even capacity) from almost all other mp3 players. If you want drag and drop, get a 1Gig generic player with a 8x24 pixel black and white screen. If that's what you want, stop complaining about the small effort of installing and using iTunes and get your drag and drop capable player!
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LOL. Bit of an understatement that. I just think that some people are surprised that the iPod is the most successful player out there when it is one of the least easy to use.
 
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