Sanral: E-toll registrations pick up

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"There has been a significant increase of e-tag registrations in Gauteng, the SA National Roads Agency Ltd (Sanral) said on Wednesday. Salahdin Yacoubi, chief executive of electronic toll collections, told the publication that between 5 000 and 10 000 people had registered daily in the past week."

http://www.fin24.com/Companies/TravelAndLeisure/Sanral-E-toll-registrations-pick-up-20120418

If this is true I'm stabbing myself in the face with a butter knife when I get home :mad:
Let's hope this is just SANRAL spreading their desperate and bipolar BS again.
 
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Let's make it a round 7500 a day.

Over the next 14 days that will add an additional 105000 e-tags.

Hardly something to get excited about.
 
Sure they would have picked up registrations as the easily-bullied feel pressured to remain "good" citizens however I think the figures are pure spin. They're desperate. They know it and we know it. Just read the comments in that article; it's not like this sentiment is solely a mybb thing. Popcorn time coming soon!
 
Bwahahhahaha, more scare tactics!! Making us believe that our comrades have abandoned us and are registering for this crap e-tag *****
 
OK, so... even if it is currently sitting around 350,000 ... they need to be selling ten times that figure in order to reach the 3 million they need in less than two weeks.

NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
 
Sell outs. Companies( like Nissan) has now invited etag to their office and told their employees that they should be law abiding citizens and register :mad:

Pisses me off. The companies are just passing the cost down to the consumer.
 
Saw those eTrolls at the Malibongwe/N1 interchange for the first time just a few minutes ago. Wanted to take a pamphlet and tear it up just there, but yeah, would've been a bit of a douche move I guess, I'd prefer to take out my rage on a fancy camera.
 
And contrary to the OT -

http://www.iol.co.za/business/business-news/opposition-to-e-tolls-grows-1.1278316



Opposition to e-tolls grows

April 18 2012 at 05:00am
By Roy Cokayne


Resistance to the planned implementation of electronic tolling on the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP) is intensifying as the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) and the government are set to face three court applications within days in an attempt to stop its implementation.

Lobby group AfriForum yesterday joined the fray by announcing that it had instructed its legal team to prepare to oppose “on an urgent basis in court” the decision of Sanral to levy a tariff of R1.75 a kilometre on road users not registered for e-tolling.

The Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa), comprising largely a number of business organisations, last month lodged an application in the Gauteng North High Court for an interdict to prevent the tolling of the GFIP.

This application is set to be heard on Tuesday.

Business Report is aware of a third organisation preparing to lodge an urgent court application to stop the implementation of e-tolling on the GFIP.

AfriForum said its court application would be based on the Competition Act.

Kallie Kriel, the chief executive of AfriForum, said yesterday that the Competition Act stipulated that no dominant company was allowed to abuse its position of dominance to levy excessive tariffs.

“The public is asked to wait for the outcome of the proposed legal action of AfriForum and other groups before deciding whether to register for e-tolling at all,” he said.

Outa’s court interdict application is based on a number of grounds, including that the planned e-toll system was grossly expensive, inefficient and a waste of citizens’ money; it was fundamentally wrong to apply an additional toll against citizens along their daily commuter routes; the e-toll project was unfairly punitive to Gauteng citizens who contributed much more in taxes than the value and spending they received in return; and the user-pays principle” as declared by Sanral as a motive to use tolls to pay for the GFIP was flawed.

Business Unity SA and the SA Chamber of Commerce and Industry both yesterday called for the implementation of e-tolling on the GFIP to be delayed because of continued uncertainty and confusion surrounding the system.

In a statement issued on Monday reacting to comments by Outa that the gazetted e-tolling tariffs did not make any provision for the exemption of the taxi industry and public transport vehicles, Sanral said the public transport exemptions for buses and minibus taxis were made via regulations issued separately in terms of the Sanral Act.

It is not clear if these regulations have been gazetted.

Sanral failed to respond to questions e-mailed to the organisation on Monday. The national Transport Department also failed yesterday to respond to Business Report queries about e-tolling.

Philip Taaibosch, the general secretary of the SA National Taxi Council, said it was not aware if regulations had been published exempting the industry from e-tolls.

He said it would continue to believe it was exempted and would not be charged until an announcement was made.

“We take at face value and trust that we are dealing with an honest government that will keep its word,” he said.

Philip Taaibosch probably believes in the easter bunny and the tooth fairy as well.

I don't think Sanral have any idea how to practically exempt taxis.
 
I don't think Sanral have any idea how to practically exempt taxis.

^ This.
Working with back-end systems and integration is what I do for a living, and I cannot for the life of me imagine that they have something already set up that will seamlessly do this, unless there was a huge project running all along that was somehow based on decent data (LOL!) and a massively competent workforce.

I have a feeling these guys just have the basics, probably an out-of-the box system that came with the Tollgates and somehow loosely integrated it with the current licensing database addresses and registration numbers (without a decent two-way channel and the necessary systems to handle any kind of complexity, in fact, I'd love to see how the licensing dept. system data integrates with the toll system and if changes reflect immediately etc. Especially given this whole 7-day thing)

People completely overestimate the ability of Government to actually execute a fraction of the threats they make and I can't wait to see how the crap spewing form their big mouths actually translate into real-world scenarios and the inevitable billing cock-up that awaits this atrocity.
 
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I actually think the "exempting" taxi's thing should be relatively easy....

A taxi's number plate may have the same number structure as a normal one, but its applied for differently, etc etc... They should realistically have a database with number plates that are registered taxi's in Gauteng (if not the whole country) which they can reference.
 
They should realistically have a database with number plates that are registered taxi's in Gauteng (if not the whole country) which they can reference.

They will need one for the entire country - and I have serious doubts that every taxi has it's real number plate attached.....

Any idea of the number of unregistered taxis in the country ?
 
I actually think the "exempting" taxi's thing should be relatively easy....

A taxi's number plate may have the same number structure as a normal one, but its applied for differently, etc etc... They should realistically have a database with number plates that are registered taxi's in Gauteng (if not the whole country) which they can reference.

haha! No dude.
Of all the industries in the Southern Hemisphere I can promise you that Africa's TAXI business is one of the worst documented "systems" in existence. Even if you had some of the info it'll be impossible to implement in a realistic way.
 
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Even if the non taxpaying taxis get a free ride while the taxpayers have to pay, there are going to be a large % of taxis that are going to get invoices in the mail due to 'not being on the system'.

The only problem will be, where do they send those invoices ....
 
Even if the non taxpaying taxis get a free ride while the taxpayers have to pay, there are going to be a large % of taxis that are going to get invoices in the mail due to 'not being on the system'.

The only problem will be, where do they send those invoices ....

I'll even go as far as to say I'll believe the Mail Invoice thing when I see it.
If anyone has one of those "test" Invoices they supposedly sent during the last week's testing phase, please upload and post it.
At the very least it'll be interesting to see what's on the thing....
 
Eurocar are sell outs. I have a hire car in Durban with a ND number plate and an etag. It looked like all their cars in the car park had etags.

So if you have cars that are miles away having etags this could just be more SANRAL BS.
 
My company has bought buckets full of the things, every one on the car allowance scheme gets one.. I haven't collected mine yet, but even if they force me to take it, I guess I just won't be using the highways. I refuse to support this bull****, even if it doesn't cost me anything. Actually it will because you still get taxed on it.
 
Eurocar are sell outs. I have a hire car in Durban with a ND number plate and an etag. It looked like all their cars in the car park had etags.

So if you have cars that are miles away having etags this could just be more SANRAL BS.

I think that this whole debacle has put the car rental companies in an impossible situation, for example at ORT Airport they have to pass through a toll gantry just to have the cars refuelled / cleaned.

Then, of course, the cars travel all over the country, and there is no telling where a car may end up travelling.

The easiest solution for them is just to get e-tags, and to increase their rental rates across the board, and I am sure that all the rental companies will do this.

So just watch inflation take off - the vehicle rental companies are not going to be the only ones passing on costs !
 
I think that this whole debacle has put the car rental companies in an impossible situation, for example at ORT Airport they have to pass through a toll gantry just to have the cars refuelled / cleaned.

Then, of course, the cars travel all over the country, and there is no telling where a car may end up travelling.

The easiest solution for them is just to get e-tags, and to increase their rental rates across the board, and I am sure that all the rental companies will do this.

So just watch inflation take off - the vehicle rental companies are not going to be the only ones passing on costs !

The unintended consequence is that theives can now look for motor vehicles in Durbs with etags and there is a pretty good chance that it is a hire car and probably has some items of value in the boot. I do assume that most business travellers are like me - it is usually for one night and usually you go from the airport to your client and then to the hotel in the evening.

But your arguement about having no choice actually means that the cost of car hire is going up for everyone - even in places that laugh about the etolling.
 
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