SAOL - Uncapped dilemma

ramjet said:
Can you make any recommendations or tell us how you would do it cpu? I've never really been tempted to try and thwart the system by using a download service and http as I thought that even if you were using doing that and maxing out your http the ISP's for 384kbps packages would still be aware of you maxing out your line and start shaping your http downloads.
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Twart the system?

A download service is about convenience not bypassing shaping. No ISP can/should punish you for using it. The only part that they can act on is the actual http download. The torrent loaded with the service is a "transaction" between you and said service (website).

Convenience: You load torrents in the download service. It download it at +- 1MB/s to 6MB/s (megabyte/s) and you end up with a convenient http download. No tweaking, no adding trackers, no peerblock, no nothing. Low seeded torrents is left in the queue till done, no need to leave your PC on to get a 5kb/s torrent.

And cost R49 for 4GB space with unlimited torrents and bandwidth (perfect for 384kbps users). Google for many services.

Steps I take to get downloading:

- Search torrent on torrent site
- Copy URL of torrent
- Paste in torrent service
- Select Get Torrent & wait till done (4 to 20+ minutes for 350MB based on seeders)
- Download from the provided link with manager of choice (I use wget in Ubuntu - with queuing)
- While you download from server, you download more torrents to server.

News servers really suck. You have to get in with an exclusive club to get nzb's, join a news server service to download it and use a news reader (non standard download manager) with settings to configure and caching issues etc. etc.
Torrents directly really suck. You have to look for seeders, hope you don't receive letters (and take evasive actions), setup torrent client for optimal performance etc. etc.
 
Whilst on the subject of shaping and throttling.

NO ISP should charge you for an UNSHAPED service(especially since i have a 60 cap) when its not.:mad:
This certainly wont fly when the consumer protection act kicks in hopefully soon.

@Milomak, it was also mentioned in the massive SAOL thread that Tjoker started in December of 2009 that SAOL do not give out warning letters because they are utilizing the Seacom cable,unlike ISP's using Internet Solutions.
I think the rep even said in one of the many threads.

Unless somebody using SAOL has received a letter that im not aware of this remains true.

I do use Peerblock for extra protection though...:p
 
Hi Guys,

I lost track of this thread, so don't crucify me if this is a STUPID question. All these options(openweb, orbisp, etc are they all 384Kb?
I was offered 7gigs on a 4Mb line for R800 by SAOL. I thought it was ridiculous, but thinking more about it I realised ADSL line rental for speed.....
Saying that, is there no other option for a faster speed and higher cap(60 gigs should be fine) for under R650?(or is this another stupid question)?
 
demon angel said:
@Milomak, it was also mentioned in the massive SAOL thread that Tjoker started in December of 2009 that SAOL do not give out warning letters because they are utilizing the Seacom cable,unlike ISP's using Internet Solutions.
I think the rep even said in one of the many threads.
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IP addresses (which is what the likes of MPAA and RIAA act on) are linked to ISPs. The IP address in itself doesn’t tell what cable is being used. Especially seeing as traffic likely takes a number of different cables between here and somewhere in Europe or America.

MPAA/RIAA identifies which ISP an IP address belongs to. And then expects that ISP to drill down further to find out to whom the IP address was allocated at the time and issue the warning. Seacom have no say on what the ISP decides to do with respect to whether they forward the warning to the user.
 
I take your point milomak.
I have now left SAOL.
SAOL the 'Uncapped dilemma' for me, is finally over.

They never truly offered uncapped, so Keoma from Openweb offered me a deal i couldn't resist....

Goodbuy SAOL....:twisted:

Hello uncapped.:love:
 
pmbellis said:
Hmm, I'm on the same package you were on (R499-00), recently (last 3 days) I've been throttled to nothing (nntp & p2p just keep on disconnecting all the time!). I phoned & they offered me the same deal you've now got ... but they just said "unshaped @ R599-00). So ... how's your experience? nntp speed (international) & p2p ??

Tx
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I had the same/similar problem ... nntp local was great ... but international was non existent .... and when I called them .. they said that I was shaped because I did over 20GB a month in the pass 3 months .... and this ... on an uncapped account .... I was not happy ... so I have now cancelled and looking for another provider .. anyone got any suggestions :)
 
demon angel said:
I take your point milomak.
I have now left SAOL.
SAOL the 'Uncapped dilemma' for me, is finally over.

They never truly offered uncapped, so Keoma from Openweb offered me a deal i couldn't resist....

Goodbuy SAOL....:twisted:

Hello uncapped.:love:
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what did u get from openweb?? I am also looking for a new ISP, as I have just cancelled with SAOL as well ... only prob .. have to wait a whole month before I can move .... so will only be able to signup come 1 April :(
 
openweb gold package, it uses different backbones, but on vodacom backbone you can pretty much get full speed on news server almost 24/7
 
@Thatotherguy and Lucifir.

Openweb Gold UNSHAPED/UNCAPPED on the Seacom backbone(same as SAOL),but i was expressly told NO LIMITS from Openweb.

Makes a nice change from being told 30 then 20 gigs is considered abuse when you pay for a 60 gig account or were on uncapped and still got throttled.:sick:

OR, when the terms and conditions just totally vanish from the website leaving you in the dark....

Right now im 'abusing the network' by downloading 24/7 until my contact ends.

Of course i left my line rental with them in case it got terminated and then after reapplying for ASDL, the exchange would be full.....:rolleyes:
 
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I am doing the same demon angel ... 24/7 FTW :)
was thinking of trying mweb as they have a news server and if that fails then openweb ... but not sure what news server to use with openweb?
I am however cancelling my line with them and have asked them to move it back to telkom .... I have an email from them saying that the line will be moved back .. so if it gets cancelled, then I will try and get them to fit the bill,etc. :)
 
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