Saps can only be 9.6% white by 2010

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The South African Police Service must be below 10% "white" by 2010.

That's according to a confidential report on the latest guidelines for quotas and affirmative action (AA) in the police by commissioner Manoko Aletta Nchwe, who's in charge of the service's career management.

Beeld newspaper has a copy of the report, which is backed by the national commissioner.

The report says that by 2010, the police service must consist of 79% blacks, 9.6% whites, 8.9% coloureds and 2.5% Indians.

I just love how we are going back to the apartheid days a little bit every day. :rolleyes:

We have almost the highest crime rate in the world and this is how our "beloved" leaders are thinking about controlling crime. I am almost 90% sure that the new middle class black people dont care what colour an officer is if atleast they do their job.
 
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What is the ratio of the general population? It's pretty close to the 9.6% figure.

How is it a bad thing that the SAPS demographics reflect the country's? Should a special percentage of jobs be reserved for whites?
 
Yup, nothing wrong with the force reflecting the demographics of our country, but the way they go about it is not so splendid.

Have a few friends in the force though that say the pale males are being forced out through indirect means.

In order to have the force reflect the demographics you will need to purge a fair number of whiteys, somehow.
Labour law doesn't allow for this so by forcing transfers on members, no chance of promotions and such, they get despondent and leave. Just need to push the right buttons.
 
chiskop said:
What is the ratio of the general population? It's pretty close to the 9.6% figure.

How is it a bad thing that the SAPS demographics reflect the country's? Should a special percentage of jobs be reserved for whites?
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We have a very very high crime rate shouldnt all those who want to help fight crime be allowed to join the SAP ? How many times dont we hear even on this forum stop moaning about crime and do something now these people who want to do something are being forced out of the SAP.

chiskop said:
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By the way the name was changed to SAP because of political reform :D
 
I've got a better idea. Increase the police force until the current number of whites equals 9.6%.
 
Xarog said:
I've got a better idea. Increase the police force until the current number of whites equals 9.6%.
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Sounds like a better idea though I detest racist quota systems.
 
Xarog said:
I've got a better idea. Increase the police force until the current number of whites equals 9.6%.
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Beeld newspaper has a copy of the report, which is backed by the national commissioner.

The report says that by 2010, the police service must consist of 79% blacks, 9.6% whites, 8.9% coloureds and 2.5% Indians.

At present, the SAPS has 156 180 members, of whom 29 401 are white, that is, between 18% and 19%.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,9294,2-7-1442_2062752,00.html
 
DigitalSoldier said:
Beeld newspaper has a copy of the report, which is backed by the national commissioner.

The report says that by 2010, the police service must consist of 79% blacks, 9.6% whites, 8.9% coloureds and 2.5% Indians.

At present, the SAPS has 156 180 members, of whom 29 401 are white, that is, between 18% and 19%.

http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,9294,2-7-1442_2062752,00.html
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Understood but they can always reduce percentage of white cops by increasing the number of black/coloured/indian ones - the overall effect would be a huge increase in the overall number of cops.
 
chiskop said:
How is it a bad thing that the SAPS demographics reflect the country's? Should a special percentage of jobs be reserved for whites?
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Should a special percentage be reserved for blacks? It shouldn't be about percentages, it should be about who is willing and able to do the job. Let the demographics balance naturally over time.
 
So you either virtually double the size of the force ( to +-306 000) and retain the current number of white members, or you purge almost half of them (+-14 000) and replace them with bruthas.

edit: or a bit of both
 
bwana said:
Sounds like a better idea though I detest racist quota systems.
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Indeed.

leitmotif said:
Should a special percentage be reserved for blacks? It shouldn't be about percentages, it should be about who is willing and able to do the job. Let the demographics balance naturally over time.
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Now that sounds like the best idea of all. But I still think we should look at increasing the size of our police force. :D
 
A clear indication of the stupidity and near-sightedness of our government. Racial quotes are the dumbest idea they can come up with. Should we abandon all hope of progress?
 
I love this percentage based approach...so all races will be equally proficient in all sectors in the country. Imagine if this policy was implemented in the states where most cabs are now driven and own by pakistanis - a minority. Or jewish people own or manage a larger percentage of companies than any other group. Should these people be penalised because they are for some reason more succesfull than what their numbers would indicate?

Sounds like apartheid policies to me...
 
chiskop said:
What is the ratio of the general population? It's pretty close to the 9.6% figure.

How is it a bad thing that the SAPS demographics reflect the country's? Should a special percentage of jobs be reserved for whites?
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Why should everything be tied up in race? Surely what should matter is who is capable of doing the job, especially in essential services like the police?
 
Its actually surprising how often black members of the public would rather deal with a white officer than a black officer, they feel that white officers will:
A - Be more sympathetic to their complaints
B - Not try to charge them for opening a docket

I have experienced this quite often when working in the township.

In the SAPS today there should be only one colour BLUE
 
R/SGT said:
Its actually surprising how often black members of the public would rather deal with a white officer than a black officer, they feel that white officers will:
A - Be more sympathetic to their complaints
B - Not try to charge them for opening a docket

I have experienced this quite often when working in the township.

In the SAPS today there should be only one colour BLUE
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People get charged for opening a docket?? I'm not sure if you mean cash or criminal charges and I'm not sure which is worse either!
 
Syndyre said:
People get charged for opening a docket?? I'm not sure if you mean cash or criminal charges and I'm not sure which is worse either!
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This is quite scary if people in the townships get charged to open a docket, how many crime in the townships goes unreported just because those township folk dont want to be charged. Thats if they are charged money to open a docket.
 
Let me give you a personnel experience, we were held up by 3 black guys in our home and the police responded very quickly. The challenge was that once the police arrived they were all black as well, which once again was unsettling.

Was that a racist response, I don't know, but it was what we were feeling after the experience.

I am all for get the right people to do the job regardless of colour.
 
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