Rouxenator

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So I need to just do this little rant because we have a strict policy against drinking during office hours.

A week ago SARS tells me I owe them R1480, most likely because they did not bother to look at my RA and Medical Aid Tax Certificates, but I could not care less I just want them off my case. I log on to e-filing and try to setup an EFT, it needs an account number (got it) user number (erm, 1 I guess) and access number (wtf, ok 1 I guess). I click submit, it fails because the access number is wrong. WTF is an access number anyway?

I decide to not give a crap because if they really want it they can call me and tell me how I to do it.

This week I am feeling like giving it a second try so I call SARS (for the lack of an email address) and ask them where I can get this access number and how can I change the one currently captured cause its wrong. After 40 minutes I run out of airtime, I think I had about R100+ on my number.

All I could gather from their incoherent instructions was that for the access number I need to go to my branch, I tell them no at best I will call them but I don't have time to go to the bank. SARS is also unable to tell me where to change the access number. "When you logoff and come back again you will be able to change it" - I tried 5 times while burning through my airtime, no luck.

After my first coffee I call my ABSA branch and within less than a minute I am told that the access number is the same as the account number for direct banking clients like me. I also read on the SARS site "How do I set-up a Credit Push on eFiling?" and in no time at all it pointed out where to go to change your payment account details.

Now I ask you with tears in my big brown eyes - why didn't the first person I spoke to at SARS give me that information? Why not have a conversation like "Are you an ABSA direct banking client? Then just use your account number as access number." - and then would it really be so hard to know your product and add "to change you banking details click on the Home tab, it is at the top next to Returns"

Manning the phones at a call centre requires you to have some basic understanding of how these systems work and I seriously expect them to have been able to give me that information. The call would have taken no more than 2 minutes and I would have been saved a lot of frustration and money.

Its done now, I made the R1480 payment and will forget SARS for the next 10 months. Funny enough is that during the long call to SARS they said I only owed R850-something, not the R1480 that eFilling claims. Eventually when I had the account setup it claimed I now owed R2960 (R1480 x 2). Yassus WTF is going on in that shyte hole they call eFilling?

/rant off
 

phoneJunky

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Was there a minus sign on efiling?

Because the minus sign means they owe you.
 

satanboy

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sounds like you have money to burn...I wouldn't pay them without a bit of a fight

I am sure if you went to their offices (open on Sat) your problems would have been sorted out.
 

Rouxenator

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I don't even want to spend 15 minutes to go to the bank, my time is far more precious than a few thousand rands. I have since logged a dispute and resubmitted my RA contributions. The fact that the numbers on their side change the whole time should give them a nice little run around.
 

chrisc

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I am due a R 7665 refund from my 2010 assessment. When I queried why I had not received the money in my account, I was told it was because I had not submitted a return in 2010. So I asked (on the phone) how it was possible that I had been given the refund if the return had not been assessed, and the efiling log showed I submitted in on 9th Sep 2010. No reply. After about 15 seconds silence the lady cut the call

I sent a further 6 emails and never received a reply. You cannot speak to anyone who deals with emails as apparently they have no phones in their office, so I was told
 

Rouxenator

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They have no email any more, only the call centre. It costs a fortune from a cellphone.
 

Magnum

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I have this friendly book keeping lady who got me a R25000 tax return... Just waiting for SARS to pay it into my bank account.:whistling:
 

drnaphtali

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I am due a R 7665 refund from my 2010 assessment. When I queried why I had not received the money in my account, I was told it was because I had not submitted a return in 2010. So I asked (on the phone) how it was possible that I had been given the refund if the return had not been assessed, and the efiling log showed I submitted in on 9th Sep 2010. No reply. After about 15 seconds silence the lady cut the call

I sent a further 6 emails and never received a reply. You cannot speak to anyone who deals with emails as apparently they have no phones in their office, so I was told

I actually discovered today that I should have claimed back on travel allowance in my previous assessments - which I never did. This is actually quite a large chunk of money. Is it possible to still correct it and possibly receive some money back?
 

envo

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I have this friendly book keeping lady who got me a R25000 tax return... Just waiting for SARS to pay it into my bank account.:whistling:

Expect an audit soon :)

Any amount above R15k you'd have to go into the SARS office for what they call a quick audit. If they find discrepancies they go with a full audit. I had to go in for the quick one and the money was in my account the next day.
 

gregmcc

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Any amount above R15k you'd have to go into the SARS office for what they call a quick audit. If they find discrepancies they go with a full audit. I had to go in for the quick one and the money was in my account the next day.

Serious. I think they are paying me back > 15k this year so will I need to go to their offices? :(
 

Magnum

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Any amount above R15k you'd have to go into the SARS office for what they call a quick audit. If they find discrepancies they go with a full audit. I had to go in for the quick one and the money was in my account the next day.

I have a bookie doing all my tax returns.I don't do anything. Everything gets submitted on my behalf.
 

OGroteKoning

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I have this friendly book keeping lady who got me a R25000 tax return... Just waiting for SARS to pay it into my bank account.:whistling:
You lucky bastid!! I am getting only R24k...

Expect an audit soon :)
Mine is after the audit - so just waiting now

Serious. I think they are paying me back > 15k this year so will I need to go to their offices? :(
No you don't have to go them. You can send them the backup of all you tax certificates and mileage. My CFA did the return on my behalf - I gave her all the backup before the submission. She just sent it to them without seeing them physically
 

OGroteKoning

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Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realise it was your money to start with.
 

Drifter

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Any amount above R15k you'd have to go into the SARS office for what they call a quick audit. If they find discrepancies they go with a full audit. I had to go in for the quick one and the money was in my account the next day.

No you dont. I have received refunds in excess of R20K the last 5 years. Havent even seen a tax form.
 

Rouxenator

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I am expecting more back after they investigate my dispute and see they overlooked my RA contributions.
 

Rouxenator

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One day I am going to rent a van and have a logo put on it. something like Parliamentary Office Equipment Services (maybe I'll go with an abbreviation) then I'll rock up at one of the SARS offices or some other government institution and claim I have been sent to collect some of their office equipment for servicing... I will recoup my tax contributions in no time at all.
 

Drifter

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One day I am going to rent a van and have a logo put on it. something like Parliamentary Office Equipment Services (maybe I'll go with an abbreviation) then I'll rock up at one of the SARS offices or some other government institution and claim I have been sent to collect some of their office equipment for servicing... I will recoup my tax contributions in no time at all.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Celine

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One day I am going to rent a van and have a logo put on it. something like Parliamentary Office Equipment Services (maybe I'll go with an abbreviation) then I'll rock up at one of the SARS offices or some other government institution and claim I have been sent to collect some of their office equipment for servicing... I will recoup my tax contributions in no time at all.

ROFLMAO
 
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