SARS on a crusade

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Why does these clowns do nothing when they know the money is wasted stolen inflated prices....fk them.
 
HermeticAnarchist said:
Exactly.

And to think most people favour the idea of government because otherwise criminal gangs will take over.

No criminal gang would ever be able to extort the amount of money government can without being taken down by their victims eventually.
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The irony is that governments are the biggest criminal organisations ever created by humans. They just have a gun and a badge behind them and the veneer of legitimacy.
 
deweyzeph said:
The irony is that governments are the biggest criminal organisations ever created by humans. They just have a gun and a badge behind them and the veneer of legitimacy.
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Yes, true.

Strip away the euphemisms they hide behind and you will see what they really are.

Larken Rose does that very well in his book.
 
HermeticAnarchist said:
Yes, true.

Strip away the euphemisms they hide behind and you will see what they really are.

Larken Rose does that very well in his book.
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The only thing that keeps governments in power is the monopoly on violence. Even the most benign liberal democracies rely on the threat and fear of violence to stay in power and stop people from challenging them.
 
deweyzeph said:
The only thing that keeps governments in power is the monopoly on violence. Even the most benign liberal democracies rely on the threat and fear of violence to stay in power and stop people from challenging them.
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The irony is that very few of the masses realize these truths.
 
deweyzeph said:
The only thing that keeps governments in power is the monopoly on violence. Even the most benign liberal democracies rely on the threat and fear of violence to stay in power and stop people from challenging them.
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100%

You need to join me in Anarchistan...
 
deweyzeph said:
Haha, I'm an armchair anarchist I'm afraid. At the end of the day I still pay my taxes and comply like everyone else, but at least I'm aware of how I'm being screwed over.
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Well it's a start. Drop me a line when your armchair gets uncomfortable. I happen to believe there is a way out.
 
Yeah, SARS must go to the informal sector and go look for that money at the so-called poor where billions of Rands, trillions of Rands are floating around. Leave the middle class alone, they are not stealing or cheating SARS, they are not hiding their money. It all dried up and is now with the poor. Go tax them and put them in jail. Go do those crusades in the locations across the country.
 
rvZA said:
Yeah, SARS must go to the informal sector and go look for that money at the so-called poor where billions of Rands, trillions of Rands are floating around. Leave the middle class alone, they are not stealing or cheating SARS, they are not hiding their money. It all dried up and is now with the poor. Go tax them and put them in jail. Go do those crusades in the locations across the country.
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well at least you no longer hide your authoritarian central government tendencies
 
rvZA said:
Yeah, SARS must go to the informal sector and go look for that money at the so-called poor where billions of Rands, trillions of Rands are floating around. Leave the middle class alone, they are not stealing or cheating SARS, they are not hiding their money. It all dried up and is now with the poor. Go tax them and put them in jail. Go do those crusades in the locations across the country.
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That means they have to actually do so work to get something in, and besides the voters are the ANC's holy cows.
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
That means they have to actually do so work to get something in, and besides the voters are the ANC's holy cows.
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SARS will then soon realize they will need to run this country with the minimum money they can get. They better start preparing the cronies for this too.
 
elf_lord_ZC5 said:
So why don't they do something about it, or is that like too much hard work?
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Because that would mean possibly mean a change of the government, maybe even a violent one. They can do it with the middle class and businesses because they know these people are not violent but with taxi associations which shut down cities and actually murder people and which are required to transport much of the electorate to work, it would be harder.
 
rvZA said:
Yeah, SARS must go to the informal sector and go look for that money at the so-called poor where billions of Rands, trillions of Rands are floating around. Leave the middle class alone, they are not stealing or cheating SARS, they are not hiding their money. It all dried up and is now with the poor. Go tax them and put them in jail. Go do those crusades in the locations across the country.
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Almost by definition the informal economy is untaxable. Obviously they are taxed in a sense if you consider indirect taxes like VAT, the fuel levy, etc but nailing them on direct taxes like income tax becomes near impossible. The use of cash, the informal nature of ownership structures and the lack of traceable assets makes it very difficult if not impossible for SARS to even guess how large the informal economy is, never mind how to tax it. All the usual compliance tools at SARS's disposal like lifestyle audits and 3rd party data from banks, deeds offices, CIPC, etc simply don't work when you have people who are essentially ghosts with no traces in the formal economy.
 
deweyzeph said:
Almost by definition the informal economy is untaxable. Obviously they are taxed in a sense if you consider indirect taxes like VAT, the fuel levy, etc but nailing them on direct taxes like income tax becomes near impossible. The use of cash, the informal nature of ownership structures and the lack of traceable assets makes it very difficult if not impossible for SARS to even guess how large the informal economy is, never mind how to tax it. All the usual compliance tools at SARS's disposal like lifestyle audits and 3rd party data from banks, deeds offices, CIPC, etc simply don't work when you have people who are essentially ghosts with no traces in the formal economy.
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Agreed, but the reality is that this was a making of the ANC itself over the years in order to gain and keep voters. It was self-inflicted injuries they can no longer cure. So, the reality for South Africa is now to accept a failed state, just as all other African countries have proven, and live with it. Prosperity and financial freedom was never meant for all in any event. No matter the type of government.
 
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