SA's online gamblers warned

Because it hurts the people around them. Gambling's the biggest social problem in Australia. Sometimes, people need to be protected from their own stupidity, which is why drinking and driving is illegal. Laws that curb some kind of addiction/vice usually arent to punish the individual, they're to try and limit the fall-out on society as they ruin their lives.

It should still be a choice! Because some idiot got addicted and lost everything, I am not allowed to play poker online ? Seems unfair to me.

I won a couple of grand last month via online poker at silversands, but can't withdraw my money probably because of this stupid law.

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Because it hurts the people around them. Gambling's the biggest social problem in Australia. Sometimes, people need to be protected from their own stupidity, which is why drinking and driving is illegal. Laws that curb some kind of addiction/vice usually arent to punish the individual, they're to try and limit the fall-out on society as they ruin their lives.

You could say the same for alcohol. Just because there are alcoholics doesn't mean alcohol should be illegal.

I'm glad its Illegal. Last year i lost all my bread and smoke money online. At least when i go to montes I only take what i want to play.

That is unfortunate, but its a bit unfair to be pro-illegal because you didn't know when to stop. There are many gamblers (incl myself) who know when its time to call it quits. Rather than ban it outright, there should be restrictions of some sort. Because few can't control their urge to gamble doesn't mean that those of us who can shouldn't be allowed to play.

It is YOUR CHOICE after all.
 
Oh ffs - all you had was money for bread and smokes and you went gambling with that money? Well this is exactly why these laws are ridiculous - they blanket-ban certain activities because of the likes of you and your fellow grey-matter inhibited twits. Understand this - YOU need to take responsibility for YOUR money. YOU need to determine how YOU spend it. If YOU choose to gamble that money away, don't go moaning about it when it's lost...

I don't gamble but you hit the nail on the head there. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
I won a couple of grand last month via online poker at silversands, but can't withdraw my money probably because of this stupid law.

Have you tried to withdraw that money?
I think you would get it paid to you if you have a Credit Card or Paypal Account, I know that has been my experience with casinos in the US and UK.
I have found that Piggspeak withdrawals normally appear in my CC within 24 hours, which is why I only play there now because payouts from overseas casinos tend to take at least 2 weeks (again my own experience).

On a separate thought, I see two issues from the Government's viewpoint: exchange control (necessary to maintain a healthy economy) and TAX.

a) of course gambling in non SA online casinos means that money is leaving SA, hence exchange control concerns, but surely a measure of winnings do also come back into SA. So is the Government really able to determine the gambling money in/out balance of trade or are they just guesstimating (and of course we know we don't really trust the Government anyway)? And why should spending money overseas be such a concern in any event, when I can for example purchase goods from e-tailers overseas like Amazon, ebay etc.?

So then what is the difference then between gambling and shopping online in exchange control terms? Can Government prove that the amount of currency leaving SA is substantial enough to warrant legislation? They haven't made a valid case for this in my opinion, where is the information they have, why are they not sharing that with the public IF they do have it?

b) The truth is they greedily want their tax money from winnings and they want to protect their various (legitimate & illegimate) interests in SA gambling companies. And this is the same for any Government on the planet, the best example being the USA.
And so the gravy train keeps a-running!

And so I continue to distrust all Governments, and so I detest paying further tax to such an untrustworthy institution.
 
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I would like to know where in the law it makes it illegal to gamble online, can anyone point me to it? Thanks
 
My opinion on the whole legality issue is, because Piggs Peak is from Swaziland and so are their servers, they are not bound by South African legislation when it comes to regulating, licensing and the taxes thereof.

Therefore, if they not licensed in South Africa, they obviously not allowed to operate. Also it's happening or already has happened in the US/UK.

Yes, it's probably all about money, but why shouldn't they pay taxes for operating in SA... Sun International does.
 
yeah let the company pay taxes, I agree. But no tax on MY winnings, the Government steals enough from me already! :o)
 
Hmm

will they also be outlawing inheritance money I received from a recently deceased cousin who happens to be a prince in Nigeria ?
 
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