Saudi king pardons gang rape victim

Well that's how Syndyre and some other forumites do their links (embedded in the quote) so it should work.

Anyway, not to derail, the law about not being able to be with another man thats not a relative of hers is an Islamic law, eing in an Islamic country she shouldn't known that. The punishment being increased because she spoke out was ridiculous, I'm glad the king saw reason.
 
Well that's how Syndyre and some other forumites do their links (embedded in the quote) so it should work.

Anyway, not to derail, the law about not being able to be with another man thats not a relative of hers is an Islamic law, eing in an Islamic country she shouldn't known that. The punishment being increased because she spoke out was ridiculous, I'm glad the king saw reason.

Do you think the law is justified though? Just because it is Islamic doesn't make it right.
 
I fear the pardoning was only due to international outrage and pressure, and not because the king realized that they have a BS legal system.
 
Do you think the law is justified though? Just because it is Islamic doesn't make it right.
Just because it's Islamic doesn't make it wrong either.

It's irrelavant what people think of the law, whether they like it or not, Islamic teachings came down 1400 odd years ago in the Quran and Muslims had to (and still have to) abide by the law. Granted that the world was a VERY different place back then, many of the laws were passed down in the context of the happenings at that time and simply do not work in today's times, that's why there are Muslim juducial councils to deal with issues like these i.e. whether a certain Shari teaching should be in force in todays times or not.
 
Just because it's Islamic doesn't make it wrong either.

It's irrelavant what people think of the law, whether they like it or not, Islamic teachings came down 1400 odd years ago in the Quran and Muslims had to (and still have to) abide by the law. Granted that the world was a VERY different place back then, many of the laws were passed down in the context of the happenings at that time and simply do not work in today's times, that's why there are Muslim juducial councils to deal with issues like these i.e. whether a certain Shari teaching should be in force in todays times or not.

Never said that. ;) Whether Muslims should/have to abide by certain laws is a different issue to whether they should be enforced by courts IMO.
 
Never said that. ;) Whether Muslims should/have to abide by certain laws is a different issue to whether they should be enforced by courts IMO.
Well if it's a court inside of an Islamic country then I think they would HAVE to enforce Shari Law, not exactly sure how it works though.
 
Well if it's a court inside of an Islamic country then I think they would HAVE to enforce Shari Law, not exactly sure how it works though.

They may have to in terms of Islamic law but I wouldn't agree with it, especially not this sort of law.
 
What do mean by that exactly?

I mean if the courts were to enforce e.g. Islamic Halaal dietary laws it would be much less harsh than a law that sentences a rape victim to 200 lashes. I just consider this a particularly brutal and unjustified law.

To be clear, I don't have any issue with it because its Islamic, its the nature of the law that bothers me. Personally I think all laws should be secular and religion should be separate from the state, but a lot of people probably wouldn't agree with that.
 
I mean if the courts were to enforce e.g. Islamic Halaal dietary laws it would be much less harsh than a law that sentences a rape victim to 200 lashes. I just consider this a particularly brutal and unjustified law.

Well Shari Law is definitely very strict and trust me, lots of Muslims say the same about it so I can understand your feeling towards it.

To be clear, I don't have any issue with it because its Islamic, its the nature of the law that bothers me. Personally I think all laws should be secular and religion should be separate from the state, but a lot of people probably wouldn't agree with that.

Fair enough. In Islam, you'll find that these laws are embedded in the Quran so separately religion and law is near impossible.
 
Well Shari Law is definitely very strict and trust me, lots of Muslims say the same about it so I can understand your feeling towards it.



Fair enough. In Islam, you'll find that these laws are embedded in the Quran so separately religion and law is near impossible.

I don't know enough about Islam and Sharia to comment definitively on that but millions of Muslims live in countries like SA, the UK etc. within the framework of secular laws and where I presume following Islamic teachings and law is essentially voluntary. That to me would seem to be the best model for everybody.

Apologies if this is a stupid question but is Shariah a uniform set of laws worldwide or would for instance the Saudis with Wahhabism have their own version that differs from that implemented by Shiite Iran? Are some versions stricter than others?
 
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