Scolari sacked

[stefan9]

I love tactical football. There is a thin line between tactical and plain boring football.

The style Jose plays - long ball attacks. Not my style, i love teams that can play flowing football that opens defences up. Teams that keep possession and have the other team running all day trying to touch the ball.

Teams like Inter who score one goal and close shop to defend a single goal is not my style.

Jose doesn't play possession football. His teams are build on a superb defense and the ability to take their chances. Its very simple approach and it works wonderfully. Its an approach shared by Fabio Capello.

You may not like their approach but their records speak for themselves. At the end its about how much you win. The neutrals and observers might not like your side for it but your shareholders and fans don't really care how you win. What matters to them is that at the end of the season you win the trophies that matter.

 

[Genius.]

I said i:

i love teams that can play flowing football that opens defences up. Teams that keep possession and have the other team running all day trying to touch the ball.

Never said Inter play possession football. Inter are too defence minded for me.

 

[stefan9]

I said i:



Never said Inter play possession football. Inter are too defence minded for me.

Well you said you loved tactical football. But you dislike the style of one of the best tactical football managers in the game. Don't know about capello but you probably dislike his style as well. Both of them exemplify tactical football.

Possession football and tactical football is not the same. Tactical football is all about waiting for the right moment, grinding the opponents down and waiting for their weakness to show and then pouncing.

Possession football is all about keeping the ball. It goes with the opinion that if your opponent doesn't have the ball he can't score.

 

[Genius.]

LoL - why are you explaining to me what possession football is? I am a Barcelona fan - i know exactly what possession football entails.

I said i love tactical football - but sometimes Jose attempts his ''tactical'' football - its boring as hell, and sometimes it doesnt work for the team. Already there has been a few slip ups this season.

Thats another reason i never ever wanted Jose to come to Barcelona as a coach - he will destroy everything.

 

[stefan9]

LoL - why are you explaining to me what possession football is? I am a Barcelona fan - i know exactly what possession football entails.

I said i love tactical football - but sometimes Jose attempts his ''tactical'' football - its boring as hell, and sometimes it doesnt work for the team. Already there has been a few slip ups this season.

Thats another reason i never ever wanted Jose to come to Barcelona as a coach - he will destroy everything.

Most teams would love Jose's slipups. Top of the league by 7,won the super cup,in the semi's of the coppa italia and in the knock outstages of the cl. Don't think you can ask for much more in your first season at a new club.

 

[smokey]

@stefan9

As much as I agree with all you have said - I really, really hope that your team lose a brilliant manager by the end of the season

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Apart from that little jibe I feel both ashamed and relieved. Being sacked so soon is terrible, but then again - would it have mattered if we had kept him? Maybe this is for the best. All I'm hoping for is that we DO NOT get Zola. Seriously. He has so much potential that Kenonion & Co would mess him up badly. Better for him to gain experience and a thicker skin and then he can be our manager for 20 years. Really like what he has done with the spanners.

If we were looking to get a "random chance" appointment - I would deffo go for Steve Clarke. Harda$$ and with his defensive smarts - we wont leak goals like we are doing now.

then there is the list of usual suspects. I wouldn;t like Rijkaard simply because he can't handle big ego players and mancini is quick to run out of ideas (similar to scolari) though he has youth and top drawer club experience on his side. ...

really, honestly dont know what to think. just not grant. and hiddink. as someone on another forum said - they'd be like the two old codgers from the muppet show... lol

 

[Genius.]

Not bad but not as good as Pep

Leading the league by 12 points, breaking record after record in the league, foot in the door for the final of the Cope Del Ray and in the quarters for the CL.

All in his first year of coaching in a top league. Oh this is done, by playing the best brand of football in the world.

Flowing, possession, attacking footy.

 

[smokey]

LoL - why are you explaining to me what possession football is? I am a Barcelona fan - i know exactly what possession football entails.

I said i love tactical football - but sometimes Jose attempts his ''tactical'' football - its boring as hell, and sometimes it doesnt work for the team. Already there has been a few slip ups this season.

Thats another reason i never ever wanted Jose to come to Barcelona as a coach - he will destroy everything.

so wait - do you like tactical football or not? because capello and mourinho are probably the best tactical managers in the world at the moment... you really arent making any sense...

 

[Genius.]

I love tactical football. i see people get confused between tactical football and plain boring ass football.

Tactical football DOES not have to be boring and dull - defending a one goal lead and hitting long balls foward all the time is not tactical - its boring as hell. Jose is guilty of that.

LoL - then all his fans shout - he is being tactical

 

[FantaFest]

Well this is the same club that sacked Jose Mourinho - that was the beginning of your mistakes ...

 

[kds]

Chelsea would love to be us. Our historic record speaks for us. One of the most succesfull clubs of all time, would have been more succesfull as well if it hadn't been for the moggi system in the last 15 years.

You are the laughing stock of world football. Every year you buy overpriced and overrated players. Almost every year you change coaches. You did not even manage to find your current best player by yourselves, Ibrahimovic. Moggi did the work for you and all you did was buy him during the firesale.

Moggi won scudetti for 15 years? Some history (starting from the last Scudetto won):
2007/8 - Inter
2006/7 - Inter (no Juve)
2005/6 - Inter (assigned)
2004/5 - N/A
2003/4 - Milan
2002/3 - Juve
2001/2 - Juve
2000/1 - Roma
1999/02 - Lazio
1998/99 - Juve
1997/98 - Juve
1996/97 - Juve
1995/96 - Milan
1994/95 - Juve
1993/94 - Milan

Moggi had one Scudetto taken away and one given to Inter (because they could not win it). Lazio, Roma and Milan all won under Moggi's Juve but Inter couldn't, I wonder why? Not even Lippi could get that team to win.

Moggi was also only involved in Serie A, if Inter were that good they would have dominated the CL. Again, I wonder why?

Inter failed in the cl because of tactical errors from mancini when it came to the knockout stage. Luck also played its part with major injuries to the centrebacks or the cental midfielders in the last two years.

And what happened for the other 13 years? Roma have done better with a smaller squad and a fraction of the budget. Luck, tactics and injury have a part to play in every team success. Man U won the thing without Roy Keane - so much for missing your best players! That's what champions are made of.

We are perfectly happy with mou's type of football. We love our tactical football.

So you were happy with your 1 - 1 draw at home to Torino, 1 - 1 draw at home to Cagliari and your 3 - 1 loss away to the mighty Atalanta. Tactical football indeed.

You have no notable youth system, virtually no Italian players, you are known as Inter of South America. Face it, no one in the world wants to be Inter - and that says it all.

 

[smokey]

KDS - the youth problem is not a symptom of Inter its a symptom of Italian football. afaik, the fact that Italian teams are not usually willing to play a youngster is the whole reason why the co-ownership type of deals exist in the first place. Spain was renowned for that type of thing, but they shed it slightly in the last decade or so.

For a perfect example... look at AC Milan. They should be known as AC Brazil with the amount of Brazilians they have and they have in the last 20 years bought quality instead of bringing it up. Even Juve... playing a 38 yo Nedved as opposed to finding a good youngster to slowly take his place. They are practically spitting on their best youth prospect *name eludes me currently*...

Not that I'm one to judge, I support Chelsea! lol

 

[fishfly]

Shame poor Scholari... I did say he wouldn't last long there at Chelsea, he's style of football isn't right for the English game... he had it when he took brazil to the world cup finals but after that he hasn't been able to do the same.

 

[MR.C]

Chelsea is Russian owned. First the Russian striker Shevchenko didnt fit into the team and he went to Italy. Then Pavlyuchenko went to spurs, the russian boss's blood pressure went up.
Whan Arshavin went to Arsenal, his gasket almost blew. the Russian didnt know what to do, when the figure of Arshavins transfer was revealed, he was basically pissing out hot oil.
Afeter messing up the bathroom with oil spills, his wife shouted him.
He had to show his wife that he was "the man" so he fired the friendly Brazillian.

Chelski Chelski Chelski. Now that Man City got the money and not in such a hurry to land any silverware, maybe they gonna get the friendly Brazillian and and his gonna insist that Man City DECOrate the midfield a bit

If it were up to me, I'd use Frank Lampard or John Terry to be player manager or both.

Can managers be transferred after the transfer window has closed?

 

[smokey]

Chelsea is Russian owned. First the Russian striker Shevchenko didnt fit into the team and he went to Italy. Then Pavlyuchenko went to spurs, the russian boss's blood pressure went up.
Whan Arshavin went to Arsenal, his gasket almost blew. the Russian didnt know what to do, when the figure of Arshavins transfer was revealed, he was basically pissing out hot oil.
Afeter messing up the bathroom with oil spills, his wife shouted him.
He had to show his wife that he was "the man" so he fired the friendly Brazillian.

Chelski Chelski Chelski. Now that Man City got the money and not in such a hurry to land any silverware, maybe they gonna get the friendly Brazillian and and his gonna insist that Man City DECOrate the midfield a bit

If it were up to me, I'd use Frank Lampard or John Terry to be player manager or both.

Can managers be transferred after the transfer window has closed?

Even if I agreed with the Terry/Lampard mix, it would still be impossible. They don't have the qualifications. Simple as that.

 

[stefan9]

You are the laughing stock of world football. Every year you buy overpriced and overrated players. Almost every year you change coaches. You did not even manage to find your current best player by yourselves, Ibrahimovic. Moggi did the work for you and all you did was buy him during the firesale.

Moggi won scudetti for 15 years? Some history (starting from the last Scudetto won):
2007/8 - Inter
2006/7 - Inter (no Juve)
2005/6 - Inter (assigned)
2004/5 - N/A
2003/4 - Milan
2002/3 - Juve
2001/2 - Juve
2000/1 - Roma
1999/02 - Lazio
1998/99 - Juve
1997/98 - Juve
1996/97 - Juve
1995/96 - Milan
1994/95 - Juve
1993/94 - Milan

Moggi had one Scudetto taken away and one given to Inter (because they could not win it). Lazio, Roma and Milan all won under Moggi's Juve but Inter couldn't, I wonder why? Not even Lippi could get that team to win.

Moggi was also only involved in Serie A, if Inter were that good they would have dominated the CL. Again, I wonder why?



And what happened for the other 13 years? Roma have done better with a smaller squad and a fraction of the budget. Luck, tactics and injury have a part to play in every team success. Man U won the thing without Roy Keane - so much for missing your best players! That's what champions are made of.



So you were happy with your 1 - 1 draw at home to Torino, 1 - 1 draw at home to Cagliari and your 3 - 1 loss away to the mighty Atalanta. Tactical football indeed.

You have no notable youth system, virtually no Italian players, you are known as Inter of South America. Face it, no one in the world wants to be Inter - and that says it all.

They only investigated the last 2 seasons. It would have caused chaos if they looked at all previous season. You really think he only started cheating in his last two seasons??

If you don't have confidence from your league performance you won't have the confidence for european.

Man utd missed keane for one match. In the past two campaigns this is what happended. Vs valencia cambiasso and viera was out that's our first choice midfield pair that season. Vs lfc samuel and cordoba out , again our first choice centre back pairing. The season milan won it when they beat man utd in the quarters man utd had both vidic and ferdinand out, do you think it may have been a different story if they were fit for those games?? Injuries are part of the game but its rather a different story when you lose key combinations in a team. a Team can compensate for losing the odd player but when you lose key combo's its harder.

As for those results. Every team goes through a bad patch during a season. The key is to be at the top when the season ends. 7 points ahead says it all.

Why does it matter if we have italian players in our squad or not?? Besides we could argue all day long about what makes you italian, whether its your passport or who you chose to play for. Our squad has quite a lot of people with dual nationality.

You obviously have no clue about the history and what the club stands for. The name is FC Internazionale not FC Italia. We broke away from Milan because they wanted more italian players in the squad.

Also for the record we have 2 inter owned players in the current italian under 21 squad. Aquafresca( on loan at cagliari) and ballotelli. Santon will also be in that squad very soon. Genoa have two and Juve have two. Bolzoni would also be in the squad if he wasn't currently injured. He is a regular for the italian under 21 team.

Our under 21 side since 2000 have won their scudetto twice,won an italian cup and won the big viareggio trophy twice. Hardly a bad record for a side with no notable youth system as you would like to call it.

Your post shows a total lack of knowledge about Inter.

 

[smokey]

.derail

So you think you guys'll keep Ballotelli? All sorts of rumours going around these days.

 

[stefan9]

.derail

So you think you guys'll keep Ballotelli? All sorts of rumours going around these days.

He will stay. Club has no intention to let him go. Jomo was just teaching him a lesson. He needs to adjust his attitude. Thinks he is already the best player in the world without having proven much.

Was back in the squad this weekend. But got himself booked. Didn't retreat the 10 metres for a fk so will miss the derby,5th booking of the season.

 

[smokey]

You guys are bloody lucky. An Africans power/physique with the footballing brains of an Italian is an extremely scary prospect. Going to be brilliant if he can calm his ego and keep his nose down and work. Messi didn't become what he is today by posturing and being a tosser... (Ok... Ronaldo did, but he still worked his socks off - Sir Alex saw to that)

 

[stefan9]

You guys are bloody lucky. An Africans power/physique with the footballing brains of an Italian is an extremely scary prospect. Going to be brilliant if he can calm his ego and keep his nose down and work. Messi didn't become what he is today by posturing and being a tosser... (Ok... Ronaldo did, but he still worked his socks off - Sir Alex saw to that)

I agree. That's why Mou is being hard on him, because he knows he will be excellent if he gets his attitude right and works hard.

Many other guys would give anything to be in his position.