Screamer WiMax

wow4life said:
Yeah - I don't believe that there is any cheaper WiMAX out there when you add line + usage ... prove me wrong though :cool:
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Sorry, I didn't give the full picture in my previous post. The Screamer service is R190/1Gb but then there is also R210 Wimax equipment rental per month, so effectively R400/mo for 1Gb. According to the technician that did my installation, you can also buy the equipment at approx R2500 - maybe a better option.
 
Borrels said:
Sorry, I didn't give the full picture in my previous post. The Screamer service is R190/1Gb but then there is also R210 Wimax equipment rental per month, so effectively R400/mo for 1Gb. According to the technician that did my installation, you can also buy the equipment at approx R2500 - maybe a better option.
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Telkom dont give you the opportunity to buy their modem equipment and you have to rent it forever as far as I know thats why I took the once off payment that Screamer offer. After 10 months of rentals you could have paid for it.
 
Borrels said:
Sorry, I didn't give the full picture in my previous post. The Screamer service is R190/1Gb but then there is also R210 Wimax equipment rental per month, so effectively R400/mo for 1Gb. According to the technician that did my installation, you can also buy the equipment at approx R2500 - maybe a better option.
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Telkom is the cheapest... R240 for equipment and then you can use any ISP, so basically R60-70/gig...
 
SharkBait said:
Telkom is the cheapest... R240 for equipment and then you can use any ISP, so basically R60-70/gig...
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I am still not sure how Telkom is the cheapest.
You are paying R240 for your connection with Telkom and then R70/GIG so R310.00 for your connection and 1 Gig.

Screamer is R190:confused:
 
Playoff said:
I am still not sure how Telkom is the cheapest.
You are paying R240 for your connection with Telkom and then R70/GIG so R310.00 for your connection and 1 Gig.

Screamer is R190:confused:
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Yes, but question is: can you buy the equipment from Screamer and somehow get Telkom to do away with the R240 since you have your own equipment and get another ISP for cheap bandwith? I doubt it actually, cause Screamer/Telkom somehow needs to recover cost for operating and maintaining the towers.
 
Playoff said:
Telkom dont give you the opportunity to buy their modem equipment and you have to rent it forever as far as I know thats why I took the once off payment that Screamer offer. After 10 months of rentals you could have paid for it.
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But normally then Telkom maintains the equipment for free (do they still?) as well,whats the situation with Screamer regarding that?:D
 
Borrels said:
Yes, but question is: can you buy the equipment from Screamer and somehow get Telkom to do away with the R240 since you have your own equipment and get another ISP for cheap bandwith? I doubt it actually, cause Screamer/Telkom somehow needs to recover cost for operating and maintaining the towers.
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I doubt it. Anyway Screamer's WiMax CPE does not work on the Telkom WiMax network because they use different spectrum

rebel998 said:
But normally then Telkom maintains the equipment for free (do they still?) as well,whats the situation with Screamer regarding that?:D
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Telkom maintains the equip for 12 months after installation. Thereafter you pay even though the equipment remains Telkom's property.
According to Screamers contract the CPE remains their property but they maintain it for the life of the contract.
 
I know that Screamer are making changes to optimise the network but some of those changes are having the desired result. My normal Google ping (when all is working) is approx 250ms. It is now around 450ms.

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [209.85.229.99]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 51 ms 70 ms 44 ms 10.0.64.253
3 51 ms 48 ms 49 ms 10.254.248.81
4 43 ms 44 ms 44 ms 10.0.80.2
5 45 ms 49 ms 50 ms 10.254.248.10
6 51 ms 44 ms 50 ms 172.17.0.1
7 46 ms 48 ms 44 ms 196.15.204.81
8 229 ms 194 ms 234 ms tpr-ip-esr-3-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.54.13]
9 422 ms 403 ms 405 ms 196.43.9.54
10 400 ms 433 ms 399 ms 83.245.76.221
11 407 ms 449 ms 334 ms 209.85.252.40
12 427 ms 385 ms 394 ms 66.249.95.170
13 438 ms 442 ms 409 ms 209.85.251.231
14 390 ms 428 ms 404 ms 209.85.243.85
15 428 ms 454 ms 439 ms ww-in-f99.google.com [209.85.229.99]

Trace complete.
 
wow4life said:
I know that Screamer are making changes to optimise the network but some of those changes are having the desired result. My normal Google ping (when all is working) is approx 250ms. It is now around 450ms.

Do you mean that it is NOT having the desired result. Mt throughput is still fine but my pings have dropped by about 150ms to Europe. They say that they have identified the problem on one of their broadband suppliers and are installing a linux server to rectify it but while this is being done we are all sharing a route which is affecting our latency.
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Playoff said:
I am still not sure how Telkom is the cheapest.
You are paying R240 for your connection with Telkom and then R70/GIG so R310.00 for your connection and 1 Gig.

Screamer is R190:confused:
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Only if you buy the equipment for R2500, otherwise you pay screamer R210 + R190 = R400. Thought this will only be for 2 years, cause then the equipment is yours and then it will be R190/month

So:

Telkom - R240 + R70 = R310/month
FYI: Can use any ISP, but can only get 512kbps
Screamer - R210 + R190 = R400/month
FYI: Only screamer as ISP, but can go up to 1mbps at no extra cost
and will be cheaper after 2 years.
 
Playoff said:
wow4life said:
I know that Screamer are making changes to optimise the network but some of those changes are having the desired result. My normal Google ping (when all is working) is approx 250ms. It is now around 450ms.

Do you mean that it is NOT having the desired result. Mt throughput is still fine but my pings have dropped by about 150ms to Europe. They say that they have identified the problem on one of their broadband suppliers and are installing a linux server to rectify it but while this is being done we are all sharing a route which is affecting our latency.
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And my results after the change are ..... :D :D :D

Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.229.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=241
Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=245ms TTL=241
Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=241
Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=241

Ping statistics for 209.85.229.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 236ms, Maximum = 245ms, Average = 239ms

Now I need to continue testing and see how it performs at those peak times where I had problems in the past
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wow4life said:
Playoff said:
And my results after the change are ..... :D :D :D

Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.229.104] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=237ms TTL=241
Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=245ms TTL=241
Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=236ms TTL=241
Reply from 209.85.229.104: bytes=32 time=241ms TTL=241

Ping statistics for 209.85.229.104:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 236ms, Maximum = 245ms, Average = 239ms

Now I need to continue testing and see how it performs at those peak times where I had problems in the past
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And my latency has also improved to better than it was before.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.229.103] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.85.229.103: bytes=32 time=205ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.85.229.103: bytes=32 time=209ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.85.229.103: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=240
Reply from 209.85.229.103: bytes=32 time=205ms TTL=240

Ping statistics for 209.85.229.103:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 205ms, Maximum = 210ms, Average = 207ms



Thanks Guys
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Looks pretty good from my Screamer WiFi connection in Paulshof:

PING www.l.google.com (209.85.229.147): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=0 ttl=235 time=195.631 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=1 ttl=235 time=232.016 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=2 ttl=233 time=331.879 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=3 ttl=235 time=225.747 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=4 ttl=233 time=199.043 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=5 ttl=233 time=194.222 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=6 ttl=235 time=201.285 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=7 ttl=235 time=193.908 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=8 ttl=235 time=197.234 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=9 ttl=233 time=194.259 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=10 ttl=235 time=192.885 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=11 ttl=233 time=193.950 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=12 ttl=235 time=195.847 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=13 ttl=235 time=200.701 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=14 ttl=235 time=228.552 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=15 ttl=233 time=297.203 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=16 ttl=233 time=207.584 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=17 ttl=235 time=196.988 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=18 ttl=233 time=197.269 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=19 ttl=235 time=196.356 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=20 ttl=235 time=199.732 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=21 ttl=235 time=199.399 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=22 ttl=233 time=282.015 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=23 ttl=233 time=198.984 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=24 ttl=235 time=195.002 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=26 ttl=235 time=229.240 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=27 ttl=235 time=316.814 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=28 ttl=235 time=249.112 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=29 ttl=235 time=195.932 ms
64 bytes from 209.85.229.147: icmp_seq=30 ttl=235 time=194.318 ms
^C
--- www.l.google.com ping statistics ---
31 packets transmitted, 30 packets received, 3% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 192.885/217.770/331.879/38.258 ms
 
@Playoff - I wouldn't mind those extra 40-50ms :)

Some questions:
- Have you played with your MTU settings at all (router and/of network card) or are they standard?
- Are you closer to Pretoria than me? (I go from Brystan Tower -> Pretoria so I doubt it could make a difference).
- Any other changes that you might have made?
 
They did my installation yesterday, but it seems I still have a problem. I can connect and open the first page, but from there, there is no more browsing and can't ping anything as well... They have been very helpful so far, but they seem to think the problem is with my pc. I sure don't hope so... :o
 
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