Second hand SSD's Yay or Nay?

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Simple question, thinking about getting one around December, prices on Carbonite seem decent.

Also since I trust you lot a bit more than tech website's articles on the topic what would you say are the do's and dont's for SSD's

Bit of logic would say no page file, no hibernation, don't defrag, update firmware etc etc, what else?
 
I wouldnt... that said I probably wouldnt buy any drive second hand. You dont know how much of that drives life span has been eaten up already. Buy new with warantee at least.

I presume these also have SMART data? So I can see power on hours, cycles, access times etc? Some way to determine if its worked hard
 
I presume these also have SMART data? So I can see power on hours, cycles, access times etc? Some way to determine if its worked hard

Not all SSD's do, and I guess if you go with ones that do, cool. You will just get notified a bit sooner about a possible fault. Maybe theres no real issue though, and if its a decent SSD, within a year old, its probably safe. SSD's have become way more stable recently compared to previous years so I guess it all comes down to your choice.
 
Not all SSD's do, and I guess if you go with ones that do, cool. You will just get notified a bit sooner about a possible fault. Maybe theres no real issue though, and if its a decent SSD, within a year old, its probably safe. SSD's have become way more stable recently compared to previous years so I guess it all comes down to your choice.

Seem to hear this more often, think what I'll do is get a 128 or 256gb seeing as they are so cheap, load windows, all the bits and bobs and a game or 2 on it whilst keeping multimedia on spinning rust. I have a annoying case now where the download speed on LTE exceeds the write speed at the end of capacity on the old storage drives I have, causes Bittorent to go mental and GTA V on anything other than low cant supply the GPU with textures data in time.
Those issues should be eradicated with a SSD
 
Seem to hear this more often, think what I'll do is get a 128 or 256gb seeing as they are so cheap, load windows, all the bits and bobs and a game or 2 on it whilst keeping multimedia on spinning rust. I have a annoying case now where the download speed on LTE exceeds the write speed at the end of capacity on the old storage drives I have, causes Bittorent to go mental and GTA V on anything other than low cant supply the GPU with textures data in time.
Those issues should be eradicated with a SSD

Ive got one disk still spinning, infrequently, and it will be removed soon. So far ive got about 750gb of SSD and dont need anything more. Some games take up half of a 256gb SSD though. Next years upgrade will bring me up to 1.5TB of SSD with no more disks... Life is too short to still be using disk drives im afraid...
 
I've bought 5 SSD's for the various pc's at home and for my parents (I think, might be 6), Two of those were new, the rest were all 2nd hand from Carbonite. Never had a single issue with any one of them.
 
I've bought 5 SSD's for the various pc's at home and for my parents (I think, might be 6), Two of those were new, the rest were all 2nd hand from Carbonite. Never had a single issue with any one of them.

How long have they been going
 
Depends on age I guess.

I obviously wont buy it if its 3 years old, but it can be 1 year old but has been reading and writing constantly for the whole year, ie at the end of its life them, but these kinds of crooks tend not to be successful on carbonite.
 
I have a annoying case now where the download speed on LTE exceeds the write speed at the end of capacity on the old storage drives I have,

Simply not possible.

Even old ATA100 IDE drives were capable of sustained writes of 80-100MB per second.

You'd need a gigabit internet connection to reach the threshold of even a 15-20 year old drive.
 
Simply not possible.

Even old ATA100 IDE drives were capable of sustained writes of 80-100MB per second.

You'd need a gigabit internet connection to reach the threshold of even a 15-20 year old drive.

hmm yeah you have a point there, its the conclusion I came to upon noticing that downloads pause after a small amount of time with the torrent reporting flushing to disk and then continue a bit again, only happens on one of the storage drives, switching to the newer ones solved the issue
 
...GTA V on anything other than low cant supply the GPU with textures data in time.
Those issues should be eradicated with a SSD

I don't buy that, I've gta v on a ssd & hdd, makes no difference to the game. your issue almost sound like a lack of vram. what gpu & cpu you using?

I got a used samsung 1tb enterprise drive with 90 days power on and remainder of 5yr warranty from carbonite, some good deals can be found there.
 
hmm yeah you have a point there, its the conclusion I came to upon noticing that downloads pause after a small amount of time with the torrent reporting flushing to disk and then continue a bit again, only happens on one of the storage drives, switching to the newer ones solved the issue
I agree with @genetic, even put my finger to reply. It shouldn't happen, the drive with the problem is faulty. The other problem you may experience is Windoze autoupdate freezing. Check hard drive activity LED when when computer is idle and no Internet connection.

As for the SSD, wait with the purchase as prices started droping, or get new WD-green on Takelot special.
 
hmm yeah you have a point there, its the conclusion I came to upon noticing that downloads pause after a small amount of time with the torrent reporting flushing to disk and then continue a bit again, only happens on one of the storage drives, switching to the newer ones solved the issue

Want to solve this issue? Update to the latest utorrent client.

The issue with torrent clients are the number of simultaneous writes it pushes to the drive to overload it. I have this issue even with a ssd. A poorly optimized torrent client wants to push the data downloaded from each peer to the hdd the same time which is causing the overload.

Some clients eith these issue are qBittorrent, bitcomet, old bittorrent and utorrent clients, bitlord.

The best is Deluge and latest version of uTorrent.

You will notice no matter the speed and no matter torrent size the disk utilization is minimal but download that same torrent on another client and the disk usage jumps to 100% all the time.
 
Had to log in for this.
1) Carbonite has some really great members and not to mention even greater deals from time to time. So definitely join, if you know someone there that can vouch for you, get them to when you are looking to buy from someone.

2) A used SSD should be perfectly fine (go for under 2 years though - maybe 1 year old max) and just make sure to get a Hard Disk Sentinel report from the seller, that gives you a lot of info about the drive. Also ensure there is a warranty still (most of these are now held by Serial numbers so you don't even need the proof of purchase but proof of purchase is just better).

3) My recommendation is a Samsung 850/860 EVO, they come with 3 year warranty (so 2 if 1 year old) and they are highly rated drives. I am using the 256GB 850 EVO and..... I've had it for a year already, time flies! Well, it has Windows 10 installed, PUBG and League of Legends and I still have 156GB free space all the time, I haven't needed to put any other games on it. Check online if an SSD will improve a game because GTA V doesn't benefit much at all since the entire world is loaded during the loading screen, so likely VRAM or CPU since GTA V is CPU intensive.

4) The read/writes of an SSD that people used to worry about in the past aren't as much an issue for home use anymore. The average user won't get anywhere close to the maximum no of writes an SSD can take. There are articles out there to prove it.

Just ensure you backup any important data, a HDD or SSD can fail at any time no matter how healthy, over-worked or underworked it is.

PS: You will absolutely love the boot time of an SSD with Windows. Mine is 20 seconds to Desktop and launching programs with no issues (although programs on the HDD do tend to be slower to launch initially).

General rule of thumb:
SSD for Windows, Games (that can benefit and frequently used) and Programs that you use a lot that can benefit.
HDD for Documents, Music, Pictures, Videos, Non frequently used programs, large games that don't benefit from SSD.
 
How long have they been going
Sorry to chirp in mid sentence
I have bought a mix of new and second hand
About 8/9 in total the oldest drive is now 11 years old have not lost a single ssd yet
Maybe I am just lucky to have missed any duds

In the beginning I use to check ssd-life for a while then I just realized it's like watching paint dry

Just checked a second hand ssd I installed in my wfies laptop

Work time 3 years 2 months14 days
Health 100%
Estimated life left 8 years
Ran it on the ocz of 11yrs
Work time 6 years 8mnths 12days
Powered on 12740 times
Health 99%
Expected life left 8 years 4 m the
Data written 10142gb
Os drive same setup as you are planning
 
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