Second Tesla self-driving crash

These people are idiots. Don't blame the company blame the idiot that is driving
Will you get in a plane with no pilots just flown by computer?
 
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Common sense that's all you need in life, no computer is so far advanced that it can account for absolutely everything on the road. I wouldn't let a car drive for me for at least another decade or two
 
If memory serves there have actually been a number of Tesla self-drive crashes, the only "first" of the previous one was the fact that it was a fatal crash.

This one is not a fatal crash hence it is not "second" by any measure.
 
Tesla is doing something very dangerous, they are introducing the world to self driving cars in the wrong way.

"Autopilot" is extremely limited when compared to a full blown self driving car, yet people think it can handle driving by itself.

I really hope that they don't ruin the industry before it can really take shape!
 
.....in over 130million miles of driving...


So can we say it's just the same case where even human driven cars just crash here and there?
 
Pilgrim said:
Tesla is doing something very dangerous, they are introducing the world to self driving cars in the wrong way.

"Autopilot" is extremely limited when compared to a full blown self driving car, yet people think it can handle driving by itself.

I really hope that they don't ruin the industry before it can really take shape!
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I actually hope they do ruin the industry for at least another 50 years .....
 
Hopefully they are not using Windows 95

Driving along the road....then suddenly the blue screen
 
I love and adore innovation, but I have to ask why Tesla has enabled the ‘user’ to enable Autosteer while the implementation is still in beta. Yes, Tesla has taken precautions with this development, that the ‘user’ must remain engaged and aware when Autosteer is enabled by simply keeping their hands on the steering wheel which would then make the ‘user’ the driver.

There is a good reason why I talked about a user than a driver. In my opinion, a beta release on an autopilot system cannot be released into the wild as there are other drivers and road users as well. The beta should had been selectively distributed to a select user base within various demographics.

Drivers are not trained autopilot users. Just saying.
 
supersunbird said:
Its not nearly self driving...
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Tesla has marketed Autosteer as an incremental introduction of self-driving technology, to quote a blog,

https://www.teslamotors.com/blog/your-autopilot-has-arrived

Tesla Autopilot relieves drivers of the most tedious and potentially dangerous aspects of road travel. We're building Autopilot to give you more confidence behind the wheel, increase your safety on the road, and make highway driving more enjoyable. While truly driverless cars are still a few years away, Tesla Autopilot functions like the systems that airplane pilots use when conditions are clear.
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Which is untrue... when do the driver determine that road conditions are clear to engage with the vehicle as a user?

The driver is still responsible for, and ultimately in control of, the car. What's more, you always have intuitive access to the information your car is using to inform its actions.
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They should be careful; the US may slam them with new legislation governing auto piloted automobiles.
 
MickeyD said:
From the source within the article:
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Vukovich said he likely will cite Scaglione after he completes his investigation, but he declined to specify the charge. Anyone who has driven on the Pennsylvania Turnpike knows that its narrow shoulders and concrete medians leave little margin for driver error. There's not enough evidence to indicate that Tesla's Autopilot malfunctioned.
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What if the car overcorrected itself?
 
The_Assimilator said:
What you're saying is that it's the users' fault, not Tesla's. So why are you criticising Tesla?
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I am criticising the way they trust "normal people" to do the right thing. There are many reports, videos and blogs about people that rave about how great the autopilot is so that they can do other things while the car drives itself.

The problem is if something works 100% the first time you use it, and the second time, and the third time, etc you get to a point where you trust it. Instead of sitting alert at the wheel keeping an eye on autopilot you start to lose focus, think of other things, even worse DO other things. When the car hands control back to a distracted driver it is pointless, there is simply no way that a human can read the situation and react correctly if he has not been 100% alert at the point of handover.

We can simply not be trusted with a system such as Autopilot. Rather give us full selfdriving cars with no steering wheels, it will be much safer in the long run.
 
Yennork said:
These people are idiots. Don't blame the company blame the idiot that is driving
Will you get in a plane with no pilots just flown by computer?
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I think human error will always result in more deaths than that of computer operated systems. I'm talking exponentially more deaths. So yeah, I would trust a computer more than a human being with my life
 
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