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Looks good. Added to my list of further investigation, thanks.
Got a lot of nice features as well. And ... it's not a Polo!
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Looks good. Added to my list of further investigation, thanks.
Got a lot of nice features as well. And ... it's not a Polo!
What about a Ford Focus or a Toyota Corolla, both should prove reliable for a long time.
Maybe not the best looking, but they good honest cars.
Since you want to keep it 10 years, I don't think cars with a turbo will last as long as a naturally aspirated one, and maintenance will be higher.
Maybe not the best looking, but they good honest cars.
Since you want to keep it 10 years, I don't think cars with a turbo will last as long as a naturally aspirated one, and maintenance will be higher.
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Got a lot of nice features as well. And ... it's not a Polo!
Its a Polo that has been through Audi's photocopy machine set at 1.5x
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I agree 100% with you.
I don't think a highly stressed, low capacity forced induction will age well at all. Hope I am wrong and i'm sure they will improve over time but at the cost of Turbos I wasnt willing to take the gamble (Also want to keep my car for 10 years)
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If you look after them and don't abuse them they last just fine..
My dads 12 yr old Audi A4 1.8T feels just like new.... and its done 250k..
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Don't buy anything until you've driven the new Jetta. The 1.6TDI is a brilliant reliable family car that is cheap to run, and it will have better resale value in 6 years than any of the other cars mentioned here.
It has the same power as the old 1.9TDI that my father in law drives and that was a great buy.
It has the same power as the old 1.9TDI that my father in law drives and that was a great buy.
The new Jetta is a nice car, but the OP wants to keep the car for 10 years, I wonder if that turbo will last that long?
Also, when diesels break it's expensive...
How good is the sonata? Some people I know are calling the sonata and kia optima the lost Camry. Is it like that a value for money car that can last years or not?
I'd go Corrola. N/A and you know it will last. Might not have many bells and whistles but atleast you know that the few things it has will still be working in 15 years' time.... Plus cheap repair costs if something does break.
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Without a doubt the Corolla is your best option.
They are comning out with a new shape next year so perhaps you can wait for that as they would have good launch specials, otherwise you can get a good deal on a 2.0l Exclusive for around your budget I'm sure. It comes with all the bells and whistles.
They are comning out with a new shape next year so perhaps you can wait for that as they would have good launch specials, otherwise you can get a good deal on a 2.0l Exclusive for around your budget I'm sure. It comes with all the bells and whistles.
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Not just that, but engine capacities in themselves aren't always a decent indication of performance.
So ignore the capacities and compare the Power and Torque figures vs the weight.
A 1600 could be putting out 65kw on a car that weights less, while the 1800 77kw is heavier and therefore less powerful.
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Good point, never thought about it that way
It's already been back to Hyundai a few times and one trip was on a flatbed truck. It's not a bad car but also not a camry. Suspect that it will cost the same as a Merc/BMW when the maintenance plan is finished. The engine also feels like its too small to move a car of that that size.
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I'm also driving a Sonata and I really enjoy my car. Anyone who compares a Sonata or Optima to a Camry deserves to be punched in the face because they don't know what they're talking about. Have you even seen the Optima? That is one sweet looking ride. A Camry is a POS "old mans" car and has about as much class and appeal as a sweaty arse crack.
I've had no issues with mine whatsoever. Maybe you got a dud?
I will agree that for a car that size it is a bit under-powered (and that has been the biggest gripe as far as any reviews go). I feel I have to be a bit heavy-footed to get it to move which doesn't do my petrol consumption any favours.
I average between 11 and 12 L/100km in my normal daily commute and these petrol price increases are beginning to sting.I know the 2013 Optima's and Sonata's have a new 148kw motor (compared to my 131kw) and are supposed to be lighter on juice but I don't know whether 17kw will make that big a difference. Most guys say it's the lack of torque that lets the motor down.
The optima does look smart, but what's the resale value like. I never see too many on the road as well. A 1992 Camry that was well looked altered is lasting till today with the mileage of over half a million Kms.. Good space, cheap maintenance and at 90 grand (back then) was good value for money.id the Kia the same?
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Look the resale value of Hyundai/Kia isn't going to be as good as something like a Merc/Audi etc. but the reputation of Korean cars has improved significantly in this country so the resale values are a lot better than what they were a few years back.
I hate to break it to you but Toyota's are not what they once were. IMO Toyota are riding off the reputation they established in the 80's and 90's and you won't ever catch me buying one today. The styling of the majority of their cars is also horribly conservative and outdated.
I could be wrong here but I reckon you'd be hard-pressed to find a car, that if bought new today, would last you 20+ years with minimal problems and minimal maintenance costs. There's just too much electronics and computer technology in any modern vehicle and these things are not made to last that long.
That being said I've never driven any of my vehicles for more than 5 or 6 years (and I never plan to) because the costs associated with services and spares once the car is out of warranty is not something I want to have to deal with.
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