Separatist racist training camp

m4dh4tt3r said:
yea maybe so... but that doesnt prove my view wrong... and it doesnt change the fact that pre apartheid my parents could go into a bank, leave the car on the street with the doors wide open and car running and come back with the car still perfectly intact (which they did on many occassions not just 1).... doesnt change the fact that my parents got sacked (with 15 years at the company) and replaced with somebody that does not even know how to do the job, then still be expected to train the new person (my mom actually even spoke to one of her manager friends who gave her the score and result sheet, mom had 90% score, new person had 32%)... this is only the tip of the iceberg for the problems our family has struggled due to black people... so how am i supposed to feel about this...

now to add to my statements above, what about people that have been affected worse than my family (deaths and murders and ransacking and torture).. how should they feel, oh its a rainbow nation we must all work together etc... just saying things like that unfortunately does not change what is happening to the white people now. sure maybe ***** happened to the black's back in the day but doesnt mean everything must just be handed to them on a golden platter now and doesnt mean that the white people who worked hard to get where they were should be suffering now.

again this is getting off topic. its my opinions, agree if you want, dont agree it doesnt change my life in the slightest and i honestly dont give a ***** about anyone elses opinions on this topic. it doesnt take a genius to see what is right and wrong.. in my opinion these camps for training white people to hate blacks looks pretty damn similar to articles and everything i have heard about the old regime (and how they planned to kill whites outside of meetings, sure maybe the MK didnt do that but certainly a few of there members did outside of meetings in a seperate group) im not making anymore comments on this thread because we can argue for a lifetime on this. each to their own
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There is a very big difference in the political climate between apartheid and now. We have a lot more social issues (crime being one of them) but these are being addresssed (albeit slowly). You and your family seem to have had a series of misfortunate events which have left you with a chip on your shoulder and the impression that the black man and democracy are the reason for it. If there was any truth to that then we would ALL be in the same boat, we're not.
 
Good. Should it ever come down to it then these guys could be effective in countering the element within the ANCYL who received military training. Fair enough?

Oh wait. I suppose the YL's training was for the protection and benefit of all South Africans. :rolleyes:
 
Fudzy said:
There is a very big difference in the political climate between apartheid and now. We have a lot more social issues (crime being one of them) but these are being addresssed (albeit slowly). You and your family seem to have had a series of misfortunate events which have left you with a chip on your shoulder and the impression that the black man and democracy are the reason for it. If there was any truth to that then we would ALL be in the same boat, we're not.
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ok seriously my last post here,

you are right in that their is a very big difference in the political climate now compared to apartheid, our family certainly has had a series on unfortunate events which has in a way left a chip on my shoulder although not completely,i have cousins that are adopted and black and i have absolutely nothing against them - why? they were brought up right and they see the flaws of the current government and they are actually trust worthy people.

we might not all be in the same boat now but wait until the presidency goes to someone like mugabe/malema then lets see if a war happens in the country or lets see how safe the white people will be when outnumbered severly. maybe im just not trusting enough. also i would almost guarantee that zuma and the crowd would do exactly what happened to them in apartheid to the white's if there were no complications about getting sanctions on the country. i just dont feel zuma is clever enough to get around these issues but when somebody who gets the presidency that is smart enough and does hate white people i certainly see a war happening and this country going like zimbabwe
 
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m4dh4tt3r said:
ok seriously my last post here,

you are right in that their is a very big difference in the political climate now compared to apartheid, our family certainly has had a series on unfortunate events which has in a way left a chip on my shoulder although not completely,i have cousins that are adopted and black and i have absolutely nothing against them - why? they were brought up right and they see the flaws of the current government and they are actually trust worthy people.

we might not all be in the same boat now but wait until the presidency goes to someone like mugabe/malema then lets see if a war happens in the country or lets see how safe the white people will be when outnumbered severly. maybe im just not trusting enough. also i would almost guarantee that zuma and the crowd would do exactly what happened to them in apartheid to the white's if there were no complications about getting sanctions on the country. i just dont feel zuma is clever enough to get around these issues but when somebody who gets the presidency that is smart enough and does hate white people i certainly see a war happening and this country going like zimbabwe
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Every other black person was not brought up right and is untrustworthy. Your black cousins are an exception because they were brought up by white folks.....Thanks I'feel much better about myself now. :erm:
 
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R13... said:
Meh. Another day another racist getting defended by them cry racism boys at myBB central (or is that right)
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For a change I agree with you. Racist on both sides will defend theirs. However, for as long as one race does kill more of the other race, questions will be asked and racist training camps will exist. The killing ratio between races should be 1:1, otherwise there will always be a reason to "train and defend". In SA this ratio is far from 1:1 I hate the handful of Malemas and I hate the handful of whites like this ones. In the same breath, I also hate people who makes a big fuss of this issues just to cut deeper the trench between races. This is a very sensitive issue and it should be treated as such. Just look at the number of posts in here if you think I am lunatic.
 
(@) (@) twister said:
So, how many blacks have these kids killed already versus whites being killed by the Malemanites ?
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I"ll just put it out there, i'd personally feel much better killing, dosing with petrol and cutting the fingers off of someone i hate and that has treated me unfairly, that doesn't see me as a human being and that calls me a k****r than i would of some random stranger.

just saying.
 
m4dh4tt3r said:
yea maybe so... but that doesnt prove my view wrong... and it doesnt change the fact that pre apartheid my parents could go into a bank, leave the car on the street with the doors wide open and car running and come back with the car still perfectly intact (which they did on many occassions not just 1).... doesnt change the fact that my parents got sacked (with 15 years at the company) and replaced with somebody that does not even know how to do the job, then still be expected to train the new person (my mom actually even spoke to one of her manager friends who gave her the score and result sheet, mom had 90% score, new person had 32%)... this is only the tip of the iceberg for the problems our family has struggled due to black people... so how am i supposed to feel about this...

now to add to my statements above, what about people that have been affected worse than my family (deaths and murders and ransacking and torture).. how should they feel, oh its a rainbow nation we must all work together etc... just saying things like that unfortunately does not change what is happening to the white people now. sure maybe ***** happened to the black's back in the day but doesnt mean everything must just be handed to them on a golden platter now and doesnt mean that the white people who worked hard to get where they were should be suffering now.

again this is getting off topic. its my opinions, agree if you want, dont agree it doesnt change my life in the slightest and i honestly dont give a ***** about anyone elses opinions on this topic. it doesnt take a genius to see what is right and wrong.. in my opinion these camps for training white people to hate blacks looks pretty damn similar to articles and everything i have heard about the old regime (and how they planned to kill whites outside of meetings, sure maybe the MK didnt do that but certainly a few of there members did outside of meetings in a seperate group) im not making anymore comments on this thread because we can argue for a lifetime on this. each to their own
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there is a disease amongst indoctrinated people. there is sometimes a mentality hammered into kids of an us vs them, and i see it in a lot of members posts and comments. it's a disease that someone cannot see a person as an individual, that one member of a group is the same is the entire group, and this is the worst problem of racism.

people spend so much time being concerned about "the white people" when in honestly there is just a small group that actually cares about you based on the small criteria that you have white skin. sure, this is just a small camp and these kids are to killing anyone, but it's a culture as sick as many other african cultures, as in most communities you have to be a racist to blend in and be accepted. i grew up in a small right-wing town, i know what i am talking about.

these kids grow up and teach racist behaviour to their kids, these kids treat black people badly who are already disturbed from abuse and neglect and then go out and kill innocent farmers. everything has a cycle.

you are welcome to have your views, you spent your time thinking about them and your experiences are unique, but don't judge people on what a few people do
 
Nothing said in that camp sounds much worse than Malema and Zuma calling whites rapists, thieves and murderors at huge televised rallies. Why the double standard?
 
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BobsLawnService said:
Nothing said in that camp sounds much worse than Malema and Zuma calling whites rapists, thieves and murderors at huge televised rallies. Why the double standard?
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Your response really reminds me of this quote:

The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. ~John Kenneth Galbraith
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Also, there are no double standards. Thats your right wing imagination and its confirmation bias at work than any resemblance of reality. Plenty was said about the offensive struggle song. So much so it went to court and got banned.

If you wanna see real double standards you gotta look at the right wing in this thread. Where the average moderate and liberal both condemned the racist struggle song and this tappet camp... the average right winger has tried to be an apologetic for this racist camp in this thread. Its hilarious. The irony of the hypocrisy goes clear over the racists heads who are shouting, "waaaaah! double standards!"

The mature intelligent thing to do here is to condemn both the struggle song and this tappet camp. Not to say, "but but but, look what the other guys are doing so its okay".
 
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I had a security guard that worked for me, a good chap but had very warped views - he used to say that in his bible it states that blacks are not human and shouldn't be treated like humans. That angered and saddened me
 
ghoti said:
Your response really reminds me of this quote:



Also, there are no double standards. Thats your right wing imagination and its confirmation bias at work than any resemblance of reality. Plenty was said about the offensive struggle song. So much so it went to court and got banned.

If you wanna see real double standards you gotta look at the right wing in this thread. Where the average moderate and liberal both condemned the racist struggle song and this tappet camp... the average right winger has tried to be an apologetic for this racist camp in this thread. Its hilarious. The irony of the hypocrisy goes clear over the racists heads who are shouting, "waaaaah! double standards!"

The mature intelligent thing to do here is to condemn both the struggle song and this tappet camp. Not to say, "but but but, look what the other guys are doing so its okay".
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Me, right wing? That is a laugh. I don't subscribe to right or left wing ideals. I prefer to make my own mind up on different topics. The fact is that everyone, white or black needs to be held to the same standards. I'm personally not a fan of racism myself. I think we should point hipocracy out.
 
R13... said:
Is it the hypocrisy of the forum, the media or the authorities you're pointing out?
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Certain members of the forum, the media and the authorities, yeah.

We have enough ANC and ANC YL members in this forum who are freaking out about this while their leaders say the most dispicable things about whites.
 
I don't think this training camp is any threat whatsoever to SA. All its going to do is perhaps prepare young kids to prevent crime in their areas. Beyond that not much at all.
 
Apache said:
I don't think this training camp is any threat whatsoever to SA. All its going to do is perhaps prepare young kids to prevent crime in their areas. Beyond that not much at all.
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Of course not, nothing wrong with sending your kids to racial brain washing school. That sort of thing is a very useful as a crime fighting tool - makes it easy for you to identify the criminal, just check the colour of this skin.
 
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