fivelza
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Perhaps it would be helpful to understand what this decision means to someone who would welcome the opportunity to study in Sepedi, instead of what we think it would mean or practically entail?
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(thumbsuck alert) IMO it isn't a technically developed language. there will be more english words used to decribe the english term than being 100% true sepedi. It might work for some subjects to be presented in sepedi, but to introduce it as an option to be taught in? please correct me if i'm wrong or at least show me how it will work?
fivelza
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Agreed....but I think it may be easier for someone to adjust if he/she's home language is Sepedi...I have no clue how it would practically work
It could work in subjects were terminology is repeated often, like accounting, but the lecturers who do not understand the language would have to employ masses of translators. If you have to translate technical subjects, would a translator be able to do that? There is a very good reason Bsc IT had no Afrikaans textbooks. It is impossible to translate it to Afrikaans.
At Potchefstroom honors students mark the test papers, which are moderated by the lecturers. Only exam papers are marked by lecturers. Who will mark the tests? Who will translate the textbooks?
They should dedicate the money to students who would like to complete their honors in Sepedi and other languages. There are bursaries here for Afrikaans students.
It is easier to adjust if your home language, is the language of instruction, however, you need to be able to adjust to a very competitive, difficult environment.
If you go to varsity, you would be away from your parents, friends and in a hostel with hundreds of other students also. If you can't manage that, you just won't make it in the real world.
After 4 years at a varsity, which medium of instruction is primarily Afrikaans, I understand this situation better than the matriculated people whose dignity is based on blowing their own trumpet about their 1st language. I am English, I translated a damn Afrikaans textbook today. It is annoying, it is hard work, but it can be done.
At Potchefstroom honors students mark the test papers, which are moderated by the lecturers. Only exam papers are marked by lecturers. Who will mark the tests? Who will translate the textbooks?
They should dedicate the money to students who would like to complete their honors in Sepedi and other languages. There are bursaries here for Afrikaans students.
It is easier to adjust if your home language, is the language of instruction, however, you need to be able to adjust to a very competitive, difficult environment.
If you go to varsity, you would be away from your parents, friends and in a hostel with hundreds of other students also. If you can't manage that, you just won't make it in the real world.
After 4 years at a varsity, which medium of instruction is primarily Afrikaans, I understand this situation better than the matriculated people whose dignity is based on blowing their own trumpet about their 1st language. I am English, I translated a damn Afrikaans textbook today. It is annoying, it is hard work, but it can be done.
At Potchefstroom, the English papers are often translated incorrectly, I have written papers in Afrikaans just because I could not understand the English fast enough without editing and correcting the grammar. The lecturers in my faculty are often professional, practicing CAs with their own national or provisional practices.
If they can not even command the English language, how would a 3rd party be able to? Especially Sepedi, which has not enjoyed the same exposure English has.
If they can not even command the English language, how would a 3rd party be able to? Especially Sepedi, which has not enjoyed the same exposure English has.
Nngwe, Pedi, Tharo, Nne, Hlano, Tshelela, Supa, Robedi, Robong, Leshome.
Een, Twee, Drie,.........One, Two, Three,....
I stand to be corrected, but to me it seems afrikaans is the one that uses english for it's numerical/value system.
edc, you're too educated to be articulating such ignorant views in public man. Enough already. Get yourself informed before you mnake an ass of yourself. At the risk of sounding overly optimistic, i tend to think some african languages are as "advanced" as afrikaans, maybe even bettter.
I thought it was based on dutch.
DigitalSoldier
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I thought it was based on dutch.
well afaik dutch and flemmish is also based on
Indo-European
Germanic
West Germanic
Low Franconian
dlk001
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Nngwe, Pedi, Tharo, Nne, Hlano, Tshelela, Supa, Robedi, Robong, Leshome.
Een, Twee, Drie,.........One, Two, Three,....
I stand to be corrected, but to me it seems afrikaans is the one that uses english for it's numerical/value system.
edc, you're too educated to be articulating such ignorant views in public man. Enough already. Get yourself informed before you mnake an ass of yourself. At the risk of sounding overly optimistic, i tend to think some african languages are as "advanced" as afrikaans, maybe even bettter.
I thought it was based on dutch.
What I find obvious needs to be explicitly pointed out to you, you grasp at anything to discredit Afrikaans.
English Language family:
Indo-European
Germanic
West Germanic
Anglo-Frisian
Anglic
English
English is based on the same languages Afrikaans is based on. No wonder the words sound similar, there are many African languages which use English words to name its numerical system, the one exception has not impressed me.
Compared to other African languages, Afrikaans is superior in its written form, it is based on the most advanced language today, German. Afrikaans is still 2nd to English though in terms of development. Our Boere have invested allot of themselves in to their language, through books and research, you do it for your inferiorly developed languages also. As consolation, Afrikaans, is an African language also.
If you ever listened to our Afrikaans students you will have a hard time keeping up with us, as we constantly make jokes and our wit can be hard to keep up with. English is just not suitable for such occasions. We will not accommodate you, jy kan Afrikaans praat en verstaan ou bul.
You said you never spoke Afrikaans in your years at, wherever you were, as 75% of the population can understand Afrikaans you have only met 25%.
We will have this thread closed if you continue to bash Afrikaans, because I will defend it.
I have named several reasons why Sepedi is a bad idea, to impress that fact upon you, find me a website with only Sepedi on it. If you can manage that, find an academic article written in Sepedi.
it is not just one exception, infact most South African languages do not use English words in their numerical system, names of days, months, etc....
In Zulu...kunye, kubili, kuthathu, kune, kuhlanu, isithupha, iskhombisa, isishiyagalombili, ishumi..
In Xhosa kunye kubini, kuthathu, kune, kuhlanu, isithandathu, isixhenxe, isibhozo, ithoba, ishumi...
Grandmother is English, parents are Afrikaans, I spent 2 years of the 12 school years in an Afrikaans school. I also lived in a foreign English country for 5 years. I study in English, think in English and dream in English. After 3 years at PUK it has started to change though.
During the 5 years spent in the foreign country I did not go to school, I skipped grade 4 to 9. I had American friends and started to speak with their accent, I now speak Afrikaans with an English accent and English with a very unique mix of Boere and American pronunciation. I would characterise it as an International accent thanks to German TV which had a balancing influence.
At school I matriculated with the English and Afrikaans awards amongst others.
During the 5 years spent in the foreign country I did not go to school, I skipped grade 4 to 9. I had American friends and started to speak with their accent, I now speak Afrikaans with an English accent and English with a very unique mix of Boere and American pronunciation. I would characterise it as an International accent thanks to German TV which had a balancing influence.
At school I matriculated with the English and Afrikaans awards amongst others.
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in other words you are bi ..?
I am bilingual now. When I came to Potchefstroom I could not speak Afrikaans properly, I often tried and just switched over to English when I became impatient. Afrikaans was my 2nd language. When I hear Afrikaans now I start translating it to English without skipping a beat. Instead of just translating the words my mind fixes the grammar along the way also.
Remembered something interesting now, I met an Israeli girl who learned to write and read Afrikaans in just 3 months on ICQ the other day.
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