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Hi guys

wana put it a new app server at work, our accounting software will be run from it, will these spec be enough, i have no idea, about 15 pc's will be accessing it on and off to process invoices ect???


• Intel Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz CPUs
• Intel Snow Hill Server MB
• Antec 350W ATX Chassis
• 2 GB DDR2 Ram
• 1x 160GB SATA Seagate HDD
• Integrated Raid 0/1/10
• 22x DVD+/-RW DL Drive

any input will be great.....
 
not sure which accounting package you will be using

i setup a 16 user server for a company using pastel and the specs of that pc:

amd 3800+ single core
2 gig memory
300gb sata drive

it works 100%

i also use xp on it

again this for a pastel

i dont think u need a server board to be honest

how much is the server board?
 
If you've got the RAID i would use it. Redundancy is better than none unless you have a kickass backup strategy.

Looks OK to me. Maybe put the OS on an 80GB disk then add 2x160GB in RAID1 for data.
 
hi

the whole deal comes to R5.2k incl VAT

killadoob said:
not sure which accounting package you will be using

i setup a 16 user server for a company using pastel and the specs of that pc:

amd 3800+ single core
2 gig memory
300gb sata drive

it works 100%

i also use xp on it

again this for a pastel

i dont think u need a server board to be honest

how much is the server board?
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o yea 5.2k is good man

i just know some companies want these huge expensive servers to run pastel, i tell em no you dont need a 15k server but they want it so what i must do :)
 
well how about this,

add 2gig more ram,
80 gig hd for os
and 2 x 500 gb in raid?

Any ideas?
 
tyerone said:
well how about this,

add 2gig more ram,
80 gig hd for os
and 2 x 500 gb in raid?

Any ideas?
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I would say that depends on the cost - it's not too expensive to start with, but does it become expensive with those add-ons. IMO it's awesome as it is, but the RAM is always welcome. Remember that it is likely only going to serve SQL and file sharing services and the 500Gb drives will prolly be overkill unless they plan to use it for storage big time.
What would be great in that 500Gb is to use it for a quick daily backup - you then write the zip file to removable media for offsite... you can prolly keep a good few backups there for quick access.
Check this for awesome backup software:
http://backup.comodo.com/
 
ok so here is the final im gonig for

• Intel Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz CPUs
• Intel Snow Hill Server MB
• Antec 350W ATX Chassis
• 4 GB DDR2 Ram
• 1 x 160GB SATA Seagate HDD (for OS)
2 x 500gb SAta (RAID)
• Integrated Raid 0/1/10
• 22x DVD+/-RW DL Drive

i want to RAID the 2 x 500gb's and keep the 160gb drive normal is that possible?

Thanks
 
tyerone said:
ok so here is the final im gonig for

• Intel Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz CPUs
• Intel Snow Hill Server MB
• Antec 350W ATX Chassis
• 4 GB DDR2 Ram
• 1 x 160GB SATA Seagate HDD (for OS)
2 x 500gb SAta (RAID)
• Integrated Raid 0/1/10
• 22x DVD+/-RW DL Drive

i want to RAID the 2 x 500gb's and keep the 160gb drive normal is that possible?

Thanks
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Sure it's possible, but you won't see any benefit from the RAID (in the case of Raid 1) if your server HDD goes down - likewise you won't see any performance improvement from RAID 0 with the operating system (where RAID 0 see's it's biggest benefit) -my 5c
 
ok, what is the difference between raid 0 ,1 ect?? sorry new to server thing...
 
Raid 0 pros: Faster - each file is stored half on one drive and half on the other - throughput is faster. More space - you get the sum of the drives in the array to use as storage.
Raid 0 cons: If one of the two drives fail, your data will be kaput and you have to restore from a backup (both drives have to work to retrieve the file).

Raid 1 pros: More secure - each file is mirrored on the second drive. If one drive fails, the other continues working - usually seamlessly and the system will still be available to the users.

Raid 1 cons: No speed benefits - operates like a single drive. Lower storage - only half the space is available for storage since the other half is a mirror.

Then you get raid 0+1 where you have 4 drives with mirrored striped sets. This is the best of both worlds.

I would do a raid 1 or raid 0+1 for a business setup (people won't be able to tell the diffs unless there is alot of hard drive thrashing), but I would certainly include the operating system in the array - for redundancy - it will save you alot of time if the OS' hard drive crashes. 4 160Gb drives would be my choice instead of 2 500Gb drives IMO. Especially if it's not being used to store everyone and their dog's movies...
 
You might want to have a look at RAID5 as well, though I agree with the RAID0+1 setup for what you are planning.
 
tyerone said:
i want to RAID the 2 x 500gb's and keep the 160gb drive normal is that possible?

Thanks
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Depends on the board. the intel S300AH i noticed cannot.

Either all your SATA ports are in an array, or they not - it's all or nothing. wierd. but you could always add a card - just a bit dodgy useing addon card for boot / os drive.

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That's interesting IvorK - I've never had to do that so it's good to know someone has had experience with it...
 
Bradbowlllama said:
That's interesting IvorK - I've never had to do that so it's good to know someone has had experience with it...
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I think its more the real basic entry level boards. Maybe it's a SATA thing 'cause i've never see that before with ide or scsi.

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tyerone said:
Hi guys

wana put it a new app server at work, our accounting software will be run from it, will these spec be enough, i have no idea, about 15 pc's will be accessing it on and off to process invoices ect???


• Intel Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz CPUs
• Intel Snow Hill Server MB
• Antec 350W ATX Chassis
• 2 GB DDR2 Ram
• 1x 160GB SATA Seagate HDD
• Integrated Raid 0/1/10
• 22x DVD+/-RW DL Drive

any input will be great.....
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You can , We are running it for a 10 user , and working alright.
rgs
 
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