setup 2nd hand blackberry - device not registered

[akescpt]

That old mutual info is surprising. Wonder what's the reason for that. If someone wants to circumvent security, he will. Doesn't matter the phone really.

 

[CranialBlaze]

That old mutual info is surprising. Wonder what's the reason for that. If someone wants to circumvent security, he will. Doesn't matter the phone really.

Reasons price and lack of benefit. BES used to be all powerful and superior, and for that it comes with a hefty price tag.

An exchange server and a correctly configured secure vpn can achieve all the security you need at a fraction of the cost, but yes, no matter what security you impliment if they want to get in and have the skills they will make it.

You could also consider the potential massive cost reduction when it comes to phone call, implementing viber on all staff handsets even without a data bundle gives you a 33% reduction in call costs as viber has be tuned down to utilize 30kb per min while maintaining gsm quality voice, you will get over 3min worth of talk time for you R2 out of bundle rate vs the R2 per min avg gsm call cost. Add in a data bundle and from as little as a 100mb bundle your 3:1 call ration becomes 12:1 saving even further.

This is something that is physically impossible over the 3g network on a blackberry with or with bis/bes as the actual hardware does not support full-duplex so a dual band voice over data link is not possible only allowing walki-talki like communications unless your connected to wifi. Add in your secure VPN which most companies will already have in place for staff laptops you have probably saved thousands if not hundreds of thousands of rands each year.

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[Claymore]

CranialBlaze, a couple of comments:

• If Android/iPhone are just as secure, where's their FIPS certification?
• BESX is free; it has the most common BES policies.
• Not a chance is Exchange ActiveSync anywhere near as powerful or flexible when it comes to device security or capabilities.
• There are things that BES-connected BlackBerrys can do that ActiveSync devices simply can't. Access to internal intranet sites, for example. Or direct access to any network share in the organisation (including one's own desktop PC, for example). I'm an Exchange and BlackBerry BES/BESX administrator; I work with this stuff every day.
• I'm guessing the companies "abandoning BES" actually merely allowing other devices to connect to their systems.

You make a good point about about BlackBerry Protect, and I think that aspect of it is something RIM needs to address.