Share Investing Tips For 2013

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Hey guys / gals

Just thought i would create a thread for share investing tips for 2013, could be jse related purchases, etf's etc. I have searched everywhere and could not find any decent sites for sharing and getting hold of good share and investing tips. Therefore this thread.

Some current excellent performing shares in the etch industry are :

1. Pinnacle
2. Ellies
3. MTN
4. Vodacom

Keep an eye on these and maybe invest a little.

Anyone else know of any good shares to buy, track and hopefully profit from ?
 
Or any blue chips that seem under-valued for medium to long-term upside potential? Post your suggestions.
 
Just One Lap, seems to be a great site for people like me that knows absolutely nothing about everything...
 
I have, it seems with sharenet you need to be a registered and paying customer to access their information. Unfortunately my broker account is with another company. Blue chips are definitely a safe bet, best to look at those with solid long term plans and good cash flow.
 
I have, it seems with sharenet you need to be a registered and paying customer to access their information. Unfortunately my broker account is with another company. Blue chips are definitely a safe bet, best to look at those with solid long term plans and good cash flow.

You don't have to pay to join the forum.

Rather chat there than here.

You'll just get flamed here eventually.
 
Yes. DJ will find this thread and give you guys hell for giving advice :). Rather register at ShareNet and use their ShareChat Forum. On the Sharenet site only the latest posts are shown so click on "Go to ShareChat" and that will take you to the full forum.

I am the longest standing member there so I give you a word of advice. Don't start a new thread without searching a few pages back to see if there is a thread for your question. For instance your question here would be in the "Long term investments" thread.
Post your question in this thread. If you start a new one, they will give you hell.
You will get good advice there as some members are in the financial field, brokers and a few making a living from trading.

On the main site you will have free charting up to 2 years and info on all stocks such as performance over 5 years and DJ will not be there.
 
Hey guys / gals

Just thought i would create a thread for share investing tips for 2013, could be jse related purchases, etf's etc. I have searched everywhere and could not find any decent sites for sharing and getting hold of good share and investing tips. Therefore this thread.

Some current excellent performing shares in the etch industry are :

1. Pinnacle
2. Ellies
3. MTN
4. Vodacom

Keep an eye on these and maybe invest a little.

Anyone else know of any good shares to buy, track and hopefully profit from ?

I have PNC in my portfolio and it has done over 500% over the past 4 years plus it has a good PE Ratio. I am a bit concerned about the $/ZAR as they import their stuff. So far it seems resistant to this.
Ellie. Made about 300% the past year and the PE remains low. Still good for much more growth. Digital TV in June. This will be the stock of the year.
Metair. Not just auto parts although it belongs in the auto sector it has branched out. Their new "green" policy will pay off big. The new improved and patented street light reflectors that use lower wattage bulbs has passed the test in the Nelson Mandela Metropole and will be utilized throughout SA and exported. Their "green" Stop/Start battery is now being manufactured in an Eastern European country (Can't remember but think it is Serbia)that they have bought. This battery will be beneficial to all fleet owners throughout the world and it is patented by MTA. My favourite stock and has done over 500% over 4 years. Plus it still has a low PE.
As to MTN and VC. Just too volatile for me and they are blue chips. I only do "future blue chips".
 
Is just one lap South African based ?

It's more than SA based. The guy that founded the site, Simon Brown used to head up Standard Bank's trading education division.

Very good site for learning
 
Yes. DJ will find this thread and give you guys hell for giving advice :)

I have no issue with people giving advice. I have an issue with you giving schit advice that you do not understand yourself. For those of you who are considering listening to anything marco spews forth, please read this thread in its entirety to understand why you should steer clear of viewing his posts as anything more than uneducated, bullschit guesses...
 
I have PNC in my portfolio and it has done over 500% over the past 4 years plus it has a good PE Ratio. I am a bit concerned about the $/ZAR as they import their stuff. So far it seems resistant to this.

Well run treasury function.

For everyone else:

Pinnacle are on an acquisition drive at the moment at the behest of the shareholders. I'd be wary in the short-term of swing trading Pinnacle unless you can short it (note, not investing which is wholly different) as technicals point to there being a correction soon, unless of course clarity on their earlier cautionary is released and is positive. For those of you who'd like a simple explanation and some help in what I'm talking about, take a look at their simple moving average, and overlay some bollinger band indicators (these help to confirm a trend, they do not predict them - this is why they are called indicators). You can quickly spot their correlation with the moving average, and is quite typical of how traders will trade price and technicals. In simplistic terms, a bollinger band will help you to determine price - the top end being expensive and the low end being cheap (in incredibly simplistic terms). Many traders will sell on the moving average though (iow when spot and MA intercede). You will notice that historically when the price breaks through the top end of the bollinger band and flattens, it is followed by a protracted weakening of the stock. This is precisely how they are poised at the moment, so I'd personally expect to see some short-term weakening of the stock, however long-term technicals look good. Looking at the OHLC, this seems to be the case as well. Also note how they trade each time they they break through new price points, especially all-time highs. Monitor the volumes - higher volumes do not mean a higher interest in the stock necessarily - it could be market makers maintaining their volatility ratios and it might indicate additional volatility, but again, you confirm these with technical indicators.

But this is purely based on technical data. When one makes a decision to buy or sell, it is based on various metrics. Technicals form a large part of that for many people, and often it is quite nice to find a stock like Pinnacle that trades in fairly predictable patterns. But these patterns can change on a whim, and with a cautionary statement out, one has to keep an ear to the ground about M&A activity and constantly watch SENS announcements. You also have to factor in currency risk, financials and associated metrics, as well as director dealings, index movements, futures market, analyst forecasts and industry news. These sorts of metrics are what will make you a good investor. Becoming an expert in certain companies or industries will make you a very successful investor, and even trader.

So with regards to Pinnacle, I'd suggest possibly holding out on buying in the short-term to see if the downward trend is confirmed. If it is, then monitor the bollinger bands to see when it reaches the traditional low-end of the pricing range - once reached, monitor volatility, use candlestick charting to determine the bottom price, overlay RSI and confirm when the stock swings upward. A single day's trade of positive movement does not a trend make. Don't become a victim to greed if you're looking to invest for the long-run. All you're trying to do is determine a safe point at which to enter the stock - one at which you can maximise returns.

Note that the technical example I provided above is simply an example. There is never any guarantee that a stock will trade predictably, no matter how much analysis you perform...

Ellie. Digital TV in June. This will be the stock of the year.

Digital TV is not happening in June. You can thank me for the headsup any time. The spec isn't even agreed upon yet and all parties are neck-deep in litigation. It is not happening anytime soon. Don't jump on the Ellies bandwagon for digital TV reasons just yet, but that's not to say they're not a decent stock to get into now...
 
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As soon as lots of people start giving advice on specific good performing shares to buy, it's probably time to sell those shares.

:p
 
On the main site you will have free charting up to 2 years and info on all stocks such as performance over 5 years and DJ will not be there.

On Sharechat I couldn't care less what is posted. People go there with the understanding that 75% of it (marco thumbsuck number here) is bullschit. Partly because you have 1500 posts there, mind you. Here it is a different story. Kids with their life-savings; IT geeks who need 200% per month to afford a real life robot girlfriend; people starting out and needing guidance. They are understandably gullible in this sense and don't deserve to have bullschit thrown their way masked as advice.

You are happy investing your entire life's savings on a few stocks that you picked based on past performance. You are unhedged; you have no exit strategy; you have no idea how to determine price points; you have no technical expertise; you don't know an index-tracker from a hedge fund; you lie about your positions; you lie about your returns; you lie about having been a trader; etc etc.

These are the reasons I give you hell. Not because you try to give advice. Give decent advice; don't lie; don't propose ludicrously risky investment strategies; learn to admit when you're wrong, and I we won't have a problem. I expect this post to whish over you like all the others have, but hey, what the hell, if it means you think twice just once before posting then it is worth it.

I'm not going to get into another heated argument with you about your shortcomings now - I had had my say and we'll keep this thread railed for the time being. I won't respond to you childish retorts if any are forthcoming...
 
This is a very very dangerous thread and could be potentially life changing in a negative way for some. It should be deleted.
Of course it is up to the moderators to make the call.
 
Well run treasury function.

For everyone else:

Pinnacle are on an acquisition drive at the moment at the behest of the shareholders. I'd be wary in the short-term of swing trading Pinnacle unless you can short it (note, not investing which is wholly different) as technicals point to there being a correction soon, unless of course clarity on their earlier cautionary is released and is positive. For those of you who'd like a simple explanation and some help in what I'm talking about, take a look at their simple moving average, and overlay some bollinger band indicators (these help to confirm a trend, they do not predict them - this is why they are called indicators). You can quickly spot their correlation with the moving average, and is quite typical of how traders will trade price and technicals. In simplistic terms, a bollinger band will help you to determine price - the top end being expensive and the low end being cheap (in incredibly simplistic terms). Many traders will sell on the moving average though (iow when spot and MA intercede). You will notice that historically when the price breaks through the top end of the bollinger band and flattens, it is followed by a protracted weakening of the stock. This is precisely how they are poised at the moment, so I'd personally expect to see some short-term weakening of the stock, however long-term technicals look good. Looking at the OHLC, this seems to be the case as well. Also note how they trade each time they they break through new price points, especially all-time highs. Monitor the volumes - higher volumes do not mean a higher interest in the stock necessarily - it could be market makers maintaining their volatility ratios and it might indicate additional volatility, but again, you confirm these with technical indicators.

But this is purely based on technical data. When one makes a decision to buy or sell, it is based on various metrics. Technicals form a large part of that for many people, and often it is quite nice to find a stock like Pinnacle that trades in fairly predictable patterns. But these patterns can change on a whim, and with a cautionary statement out, one has to keep an ear to the ground about M&A activity and constantly watch SENS announcements. You also have to factor in currency risk, financials and associated metrics, as well as director dealings, index movements, futures market, analyst forecasts and industry news. These sorts of metrics are what will make you a good investor. Becoming an expert in certain companies or industries will make you a very successful investor, and even trader.

So with regards to Pinnacle, I'd suggest possibly holding out on buying in the short-term to see if the downward trend is confirmed. If it is, then monitor the bollinger bands to see when it reaches the traditional low-end of the pricing range - once reached, monitor volatility, use candlestick charting to determine the bottom price, overlay RSI and confirm when the stock swings upward. A single day's trade of positive movement does not a trend make. Don't become a victim to greed if you're looking to invest for the long-run. All you're trying to do is determine a safe point at which to enter the stock - one at which you can maximise returns.

Note that the technical example I provided above is simply an example. There is never any guarantee that a stock will trade predictably, no matter how much analysis you perform...



Digital TV is not happening in June. You can thank me for the headsup any time. The spec isn't even agreed upon yet and all parties are neck-deep in litigation. It is not happening anytime soon. Don't jump on the Ellies bandwagon for digital TV reasons just yet, but that's not to say they're not a decent stock to get into now...

Bollinger bands and charting are in the same bracket as astrology.
 
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I don't have access to charts anymore since I stopped trading. Now DJ, what about MTA? You never mentioned it. Will it carry on giving me 500% over the next 4 years?
What about CML, my old favourite? Will it carry on giving me 400% over the next 4 years?
Give us your technicals on these 2 please.

Some people use your indicators with some accuracy and some only use 5 DMA and the 200 DMA with candlesticks with equal accuracy although they might conflict. There are many indicators and chart patterns so each to their own.
 
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