Siener van Rensburg

[Morgoth]

nah the American's used the Holocaust to feed their propaganda, afaik Stalin were responsible for killing more Jews then Hitler. he killed 12 million people in total, but without a doubt a civil war between jews and germans took place.

 

[daveza]

Then you are seriously misinformed.

Read the non-jewish account of the Nuremberg trials for starters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

And there are more independent accounts of the holocaust than you could read in a lifetime.

 

[Morgoth]

heh the allies were as much war criminals then the Germans, they just won the war.

 

[Master Cain]

erm you do know that the Rwandan genocide killed people more efficiently then the holocaust?

having camps across Europe made it easy.

go to Auschwitz or and you will chance your opinion.

and yes some stories of hitler were taken to a far extend but it doesn't change a lot of fact.

Killing people is easy. In Rwanda they got rid of them by dumping the bodies in the river.
I cannot believe that the Germans would leave the bodies in the street as that method would be too unhygienic for the average German.
What did Hitler do with the bodies?

6 million people would leave a lot of ash.

 

[HideInLight]

Do you believe that the holocaust actually happened? LOL!
Hitler was fighting a world war. In Russia alone he had to fight on two fronts.
He did not have the logistical support to enable him to kill 6 million people.
It would have been an impossible task to do so.
What to do with the bodies of 6 million people?
It would have been a health hazard for the Germans to even contemplate doing so.
Logistically it is impossible.
Unless Hitler was superhuman.
We all know he was not.

Are you for real?

 

[daveza]

Start here -

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/media_fi.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007163&MediaId=5690

 

[Master Cain]

Then you are seriously misinformed.

Read the non-jewish account of the Nuremberg trials for starters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

And there are more independent accounts of the holocaust than you could read in a lifetime.

Please do not quote Wikipedia. Even i can go and change the information to 6 only if i want to.
In fact, anyone can add his wisdom to Wiki.

 

[Master Cain]

Are you for real?

Yup.
I just pinched myself to make sure.

 

[Morgoth]

Please do not quote Wikipedia. Even i can go and change the information to 6 only if i want to.
In fact, anyone can add his wisdom to Wiki.

Actually , you can't anymore they changed Wikipedia a bit. check the reference,

 

[Master Cain]

For interest sake: Do any of you guys wear yarmulkes?
Is this a Jewish forum?
No matter, i have nothing against Jews. They never did me or anyone i know any harm.

How did Sieners thread get derailed into a discussion on the holocaust?

 

[daveza]

Killing people is easy. In Rwanda they got rid of them by dumping the bodies in the river.
I cannot believe that the Germans would leave the bodies in the street as that method would be too unhygienic for the average German.
What did Hitler do with the bodies?

6 million people would leave a lot of ash.

Wow. They really didn't drag 6 million out of their homes, shoot them and burn them in the streets! They railed them to camps constructed all over Europe, gassed and burned them, men, women, kids, babies. At other camps they just dug pits and dumped them in - like this:-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Killing.jpg/230px-Einsatzgruppen_Killing.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Holocaust123.JPG/240px-Holocaust123.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...g/250px-Mass_Grave_Bergen_Belsen_May_1945.jpg

Wiki is not perfect but it's a good place to start if you really want to know more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Personally I believe the holocaust has been hijacked by Zionists but that doesn't mean any less that it happened - be it 1, 2 or 6 million humans murdered or left to rot.

And if you think this in any way is comparable to the Boer war camps then try this if you have the stomach for it -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

 

[Morgoth]

I don't know Siener probably predicated the execution of jews !

and No I am not jewish, I like my foreskin..

 

[Morgoth]

Wow. They really didn't drag 6 million out of their homes, shoot them and burn them in the streets! They railed them to camps constructed all over Europe, gassed and burned them, men, women, kids, babies. At other camps they just dug pits and dumped them in - like this:-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Killing.jpg/230px-Einsatzgruppen_Killing.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a4/Holocaust123.JPG/240px-Holocaust123.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...g/250px-Mass_Grave_Bergen_Belsen_May_1945.jpg

Wiki is not perfect but it's a good place to start if you really want to know more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

Personally I believe the holocaust has been hijacked by Zionists but that doesn't mean any less that it happened - be it 1, 2 or 6 million humans murdered or left to rot.

And if you think this in any way is comparable to the Boer war camps then try this if you have the stomach for it -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_human_experimentation

The boer war Camps were most or less the same, do you believe that the English played hop scotch with their children?........

 

[daveza]

For interest sake: Do any of you guys wear yarmulkes?

Some do some don't - I don't.

Is this a Jewish forum?

Nope, though it does have jewish members.

No matter, i have nothing against Jews.

Personally I have a lot against some of them, but then I also have a lot against some Americans, Christians, Taliban, Zimbabweans - and particularly Australians who can't even speak english properly.

How did Sieners thread get derailed into a discussion on the holocaust?

Right here...

For the record, the home page of

http://www.israelect.com/reference/W...artin/SEER.htm

links directly to a holocaust denial site.

There goes credibility.

 

[Master Cain]

The boer war Camps were most or less the same, do you believe that the English played hop scotch with their children?........

You are joking! Or not?

 

[LancelotSA]

and No I am not jewish, I like my foreskin..

/Possible derail in the interests of education in response to Morgoth...

At risk of again derailing this thread, you don't need to be Jewish to be circumcised.... there are sound reasons to do so!

THIS IS OFF THE ORIGINAL TOPIC BUT RELEVANT TO THIS POST SO DON'T READ ANY FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO!

Of 145 new mothers of sons responding to this survey, 71-83% preferred circumcised penises for each sexual activity listed.

Visual appeal and sexual hygiene were predominant reasons for favoring circumcised sexual partners. Even among women having sexual experience only with uncircumcised partners, only half preferred uncircumcised penises for sexual partners. Eighty-nine percent of the sample had had their sons circumcised. This study furthers debate over whether circumcision decisions should be based solely on medical considerations limited to the newborn period.

Undoubtedly the most important finding in the past 20 years is the protective effect of circumcision against HIV/AIDS, particularly in heterosexual transmission from women to men. More than 40 epidemiological studies have found that circumcision reduces the risk of HIV by anywhere from twofold to eightfold

Cancer of the cervix in women is due to the Human Papilloma Virus. It thrives under and on the foreskin from where it can be transmitted during intercourse. An article in the British Medical Journal in April 2002 suggested that at least 20% of cancer of the cervix would be avoided if all men were circumcised. Surely that alone makes it worth doing?

....amongst many others!

So maybe you should consider it even if you aren't Jewish!

/End derail...

 

[daveza]

Thus endeth todays lesson brought to you in the interests of your health, her health and the quest for phallic aestheticism .

 

[Claymore]

He predicted Ireland's independence.

Northern Ireland is still part of the United Kingdom...

Not to worry. The English practised the same thing against our forefathers +- 50 years before that. They only managed to kill 26 000 in 3 years.

Of course, the British were *imprisoning* the Boers, not trying to exterminate them. And for the record, my great-grandmother was in a Boer War concentration camp.

I recently read a book written by an American that entered Germany during the second world war.
They were supposed to allow the Russians into Berlin first, then to occupy part of Berlin.
No mention was made by either the Russians or the Americans about the holocaust.
Don't you think they would have commented about it if they saw it?

You do know that most of the camps were in Poland, and nowhere near Berlin, don't you?

 

[Claymore]

/Possible derail in the interests of education in response to Morgoth...

At risk of again derailing this thread, you don't need to be Jewish to be circumcised.... there are sound reasons to do so!

Hmmm.

Link 1: Perhaps you should have linked to a page other than one that provided commentary that comprehensively refuted the article.

Link 2: Unfortunately, studies linking claiming that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting HIV tend to ignore real world statistics, which show no such trend.

Link 3: Not only was the circumcision-prevents-cervical cancer thing comprehensively medically debunked a couple of decades ago, your link is to a site owned and run by the Gilgal Society, a group that has a bit of a circumcision fetish.

 

[Morgoth]

Northern Ireland is still part of the United Kingdom...



Of course, the British were *imprisoning* the Boers, not trying to exterminate them. And for the record, my great-grandmother was in a Boer War concentration camp.



You do know that most of the camps were in Poland, and nowhere near Berlin, don't you?

By trying to imprison them they surely went a wiered way about it, you known being responsible for death and genocide isn't my impression of "imprisoning"